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In the symmetrical potentials the Eigenstates are either even or odd. why the even states have
less energy than odd states?
less energy than odd states?
The discussion revolves around the energy levels of eigenstates in symmetric potentials, specifically addressing why even eigenstates are thought to have less energy than odd eigenstates. The scope includes theoretical considerations related to quantum mechanics and wavefunctions.
Participants express differing views on the relationship between eigenstate parity and energy levels, with some asserting that even states have lower energy while others provide counterexamples and alternative explanations. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives.
Participants reference specific conditions and assumptions related to the behavior of wavefunctions in different potential scenarios, highlighting the complexity of the topic without reaching a consensus.
hokhani said:All right, thanks
But, what is the analytic justification here?
Do you understand how curvature of the wave function connects to its kinetic energy? That's a key point, but it's not the whole story because there are two very different flavors of bound states. One is generally framed in terms of a positive potential energy, and it often extends to infinity (or is even infinite at infinity), as for the particle in a box or the simple harmonic oscillator. This first type generally uses the reference potential to be zero at the center of the spatial domain, and then the lowest number of nodes will have the smallest kinetic energy and the least (positive) total energy. But there is a second type, where the potential energy is usually regarded as negative, and zero at infinity (this is often made necessary by the potential energy going to negative infinity at the center of the spatial domain of interest, as for the Coulomb potential). With this second type, the lower number of nodes actually correspond to higher kinetic energies, because the scale of the wavefunction is so much smaller that it has higher curvature even though it has fewer nodes. But because the potential energy is negative and large at the center, the more concentrated wavefunctions, with fewer nodes and higher kinetic energies, end up having the smallest total energy because the total energy has the largest magnitude but is negative.hokhani said:But i am trying to explain it by using the concept of curvature of the wave function.