Discussion Overview
The discussion focuses on the maximum mass limits for compact objects supported by degeneracy pressure, specifically examining white dwarfs and neutron stars. Participants explore the implications of these limits for various states of matter and the final fates of stars based on their mass.
Discussion Character
- Exploratory
- Technical explanation
- Conceptual clarification
- Debate/contested
Main Points Raised
- Some participants note that the upper limit of neutron-star masses (around 2 solar masses) is crucial for understanding the equation of state of strongly interacting matter and raises questions about the existence of neutron stars with quark cores or twin stars.
- One participant outlines a proposed mass classification for the final fates of stars, suggesting that stars with mass less than 1.4 solar masses become white dwarfs, those between 1.4 and 3 solar masses become neutron stars, and those greater than 3 solar masses become black holes, while acknowledging uncertainty regarding the "3" solar mass threshold.
- Another participant elaborates that the mass values discussed pertain to the mass after the collapse process, which can involve significant mass loss due to events like novas and supernovas, complicating predictions about a star's final state based solely on its initial mass.
- It is mentioned that many main sequence stars with masses less than about eight solar masses are believed to end up as white dwarfs, while those between eight and twenty solar masses may become neutron stars, with only stars above twenty solar masses likely to form black holes.
Areas of Agreement / Disagreement
Participants express varying interpretations regarding the mass limits and final states of stars, with no consensus reached on the exact thresholds or the implications of mass loss during stellar evolution.
Contextual Notes
There are limitations in the discussion related to the assumptions about mass loss during stellar evolution and the definitions of the mass thresholds for different stellar outcomes, which remain unresolved.