Why Use a Dummy Variable in the Fundamental Theorem of Calculus?

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The discussion centers on the necessity of using a dummy variable, such as 't', in the Fundamental Theorem of Calculus (FTC) to differentiate between the variable of integration and the limit of integration. Participants argue that using 'x' for both roles can lead to confusion and miscommunication, as it blurs the distinction between the function being integrated and the variable that defines the limits. The importance of maintaining clear notation is emphasized to avoid errors, particularly when evaluating integrals at specific points. The conversation also touches on the implications of improper variable usage, illustrating how it can lead to nonsensical results. Ultimately, the use of a dummy variable is reinforced as a crucial practice in mathematical notation for clarity and correctness.
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cyrusabdollahi said:
What the bleep??...

i think it was in empire strikes back when obi-wan tells luke not to go try save leia/han/chewie/etc & that it's a trap, he should wait until his training is done before he faces darth vader, & yoda says "yes! to obi-wan you listen!"

edit: start at the beginning. can you tell us what is wrong (if anything) with writing
\sum_{n=0}^n f(n)
 
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Sure, your index starts at n=0, and goes to n. That would be like going from 0 to 0. n only ever takes on one single value.
 
  • #63
how do you fix it & explain why it works the correct way
 
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I love all of you! No, honestly, I am sorry for being a pain in your rear. I am thankful for all your help! (to mathwonk)
 
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Well, to make it work you would have to change the n on top of the sigma to some other value. Then n can increment from zero to, let's say r. ( if we change that n on top of sigma to r.)

\sum_{n=0}^r f(n) But I am not sure about the n inside the f(n), would it always remain at zero, or would it change? I think it would change. It would increment until it reaches the value of r and stops.
 
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the d3 thing. the thing is that what the person who first poted it was trying to get across was something silly. ok? no, if g is any function then the symbol dg(x) is the same as g'(x)dx. right? but the original use of this was not to refer to 3 as a constant function but to simply a number. it is moot what the intention was. I *can* give it meaning, but that isnt' necessarily what was intended. maths isn't abuot some set of things that exist and come with notation already.
 
  • #67
^^ stop confusing cyrus :cry:

cyrusabdollahi said:
Well, to make it work you would have to change the n on top of the sigma to some other value. Then n can increment from zero to, let's say r. ( if we change that n on top of sigma to r.)

\sum_{n=0}^r f(n) But I am not sure about the n inside the f(n), would it always remain at zero, or would it change? I think it would change. It would increment until it reaches the value of r and stops.

yeah, & it's similar with \int_{t=a}^{x} g(t)dt

just like you can give \sum_{n=0}^r f(n) a name like F(r), we can give \int_{t=0}^{x} g(t)dt a name like G(x), where G'(x) = g(x). the 'dummy variable' t 'increments' from 0 until it reaches the 'value' x.
 

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