Why Use Logarithms to Solve Trig Problems?

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The discussion revolves around the use of logarithms in solving trigonometric problems, specifically focusing on finding values for sine and understanding the context of a provided problem setup.

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  • Participants inquire about methods to find sine values, the relevance of logarithmic tables, and the origin of certain values in the problem. There is a discussion about using calculators versus traditional tables for accuracy.

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Some participants have provided guidance on using calculators and sine tables, while others express curiosity about the historical context of using logarithms. Multiple interpretations of the problem and its requirements are being explored.

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There is mention of specific values and assumptions regarding the accuracy needed for calculations, as well as references to logarithmic values provided in the problem. The discussion reflects a mix of modern and traditional approaches to solving trigonometric problems.

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Hi,

Can somebody please point me into a direction how to solve the attached trig problem?

First step, where can I find such values for sin (alpha)?Thanks.
 

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mishek said:
Hi,

Can somebody please point me into a direction how to solve the attached trig problem?

First step, where can I find such values for sin (alpha)?Thanks.

You'd use a calculator to find the value of \sin(\alpha). The rest of the information can be inferred by what you've already been given (and with the use of a calculator). For example, you can find a since you know c and \alpha, you can also find \beta since you know \alpha, and hence you can finally find b since you know c and \beta.
 
Hi Mentallic,

Thanks for a quick reply.

I know I can use a calculator :), but I would like to know how to solve it in a manner that is given on a photo.

There must be some tables that I should use (i assume), but i don't know which one.

Also, the value of c in step II, where did that come from?
 
mishek said:
Hi Mentallic,

Thanks for a quick reply.

I know I can use a calculator :), but I would like to know how to solve it in a manner that is given on a photo.

There must be some tables that I should use (i assume), but i don't know which one.

Also, the value of c in step II, where did that come from?
On the right side they give the logarithms (to base 10) of the values.
For example ##\log_{10}(c)=\log_{10}(457)=2.65992...##
 
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mishek said:
Hi Mentallic,

Thanks for a quick reply.

I know I can use a calculator :), but I would like to know how to solve it in a manner that is given on a photo.

There must be some tables that I should use (i assume), but i don't know which one.
It depends on how much accuracy you want. You can just google search "sine table" and you'll find plenty of tables that offer each degree from 0 to 90, but assuming you want more accuracy since you're given angles that involves minutes and seconds too, in the case of \alpha personally, I'd be satisfied with approximating \alpha = 32^o40'15'' into \alpha \approx 32\frac{2}{3}^o and just calculate \frac{1}{3}\sin(32^o)+\frac{2}{3}\sin(33^o). If this doesn't make sense for you, then have a look at linear interpolation: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathematical_table

mishek said:
Also, the value of c in step II, where did that come from?
I have no idea. The values in those boxes don't coincide with what the given values of c and alpha at the top were. I wouldn't dwell too heavily on it though since you can quite easily re-do that entire page for yourself with the correct values.

edit: Good catch
Samy_A said:
On the right side they give the logarithms (to base 10) of the values.
For example ##\log_{10}(c)=\log_{10}(457)=2.65992...##
 
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Samy_A said:
On the right side they give the logarithms (to base 10) of the values.
For example ##\log_{10}(c)=\log_{10}(457)=2.65992...##

Hi Samy_A, big thanks for the reply!

When I catch some time, i'll go in that direction and try to solve it myself.

But i am wondering, why use logarithms?
 
mishek said:
Hi Samy_A, big thanks for the reply!

When I catch some time, i'll go in that direction and try to solve it myself.

But i am wondering, why use logarithms?
That's how we solved this kind of problems when I was in high school many many years ago, just before calculators became ubiquitous. :wink:
We had tables that gave logarithms, the trigonometric values, their logarithms, ...
We used them to look up the values, and logarithms were used to convert multiplications into additions.

No idea why one would do it this way now.
 

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