Why we measure angles with Radians

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the preference for using radians over degrees as the unit of angular measurement in higher sciences and mathematics, including calculus, physics, and engineering. Participants explore the mathematical and conceptual reasons for this preference, as well as personal preferences for angle measurement.

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  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that radians are preferred because they represent a ratio of arc length to radius, making them dimensionless, while degrees have a defined unit.
  • Others argue that radians are the natural choice in calculus, as they allow for simpler derivatives, such as the derivative of sin(θ) being cos(θ) without additional factors.
  • A participant mentions that using radians simplifies many formulas, particularly when approximating small angles, where the relationship sin(x) ~ x holds true.
  • Some contributions highlight that radians are inherently tied to the geometry of circles, as 2π radians correspond to the circumference of a unit circle, while degrees are seen as arbitrary.
  • One participant expresses a personal preference for degrees as a more intuitive measure of angles, despite acknowledging the mathematical advantages of radians.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the mathematical advantages of using radians, particularly in calculus and geometry. However, there is a divergence in personal preference for angle measurement, with some favoring degrees for their intuitive understanding.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about the definitions of radians and degrees are present, and the discussion does not resolve the subjective preference for one unit over the other.

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Hi guys,

I had been wondering for a while why it is that we use the radian as the unit of angular measurement in higher sciences and mathematics (calculus, physics, engineering) as opposed to the degree.

In reviewing the relationship between the degree and radian, I believe that I have developed a decent understanding of them both and why radians are preferred. Perhaps I can receive some confirmation.

When we measure angles with degrees and radians, we are actually measuring two different quantities.

The degree is a measure of how wide two rays are opened; the turn or rotation of a complete circle.

The radian is a ratio of a portion of a circle's arc length to its radius. If the radius of said circle is 1, then the radian is simply just the arc length. So in essence, when we perform angular measurement with the radian, we are not measuring the rotation around the circle, rather we are measuring the distance around the circle. If the radius of the circle is not 1, we can simply multiply radian by the radius to acquire the correct measurement.

To these ends, it would be more convenient to use radians as opposed to degrees.

Is this correct?
 
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In a nutshell yes.
A degree has a unit - degrees.
A radian is dimesionless since it is a ratio - arc length/radius
 
Radians are also the natural choice for expressing angles in calculus. It is the only choice for which the derivative of sin(θ) is cos(θ). Any other unit of measurement would require an extra "fudge factor". It is similar to the reason that e is the "natural" base for logarithms and exponentials.
 
If we have a small angle x we have
sin(x)~a x
where ~ means approximately equal.
In fact a=sin'(0) in calculus.

This a is used all over the place in many formula so it is convenient to use radians so that a=1 to simplify such formula.
 
Because they are easily identified with real number , so we can identify sine and cosine as real valued functions , and apply Calculus to them easily .
 
that is the natural way, a radian measures the length of the arc of the circle. 2pi radians is the length of the circumference of a circle of radius 1 and so on.
 
Because we have this equation
[URL]http://latex.codecogs.com/gif.latex?\dpi{150}%20s=r\theta[/URL]

It follows that
[URL]http://latex.codecogs.com/gif.latex?\dpi{150}%20\theta=2\pi\rightharpoonup%20s=2\pi%20r[/URL]

But if
[URL]http://latex.codecogs.com/gif.latex?\dpi{150}%20\theta=360^o\rightharpoonup%20s=360r[/URL]

Does it make any sense?
 
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I've always thought that it is because radians tie naturally to the circle and don't require any further definitions (that is, C= pi * D or C = 2 * pi * R, and the circle is 2 * pi radians) whereas degrees are a purely arbitrary man-made set of units, so some math flows MUCH more naturally with radians than degrees.

That said, I sure do like degrees better as a measure of an angle. I mean, you tell me 20 degrees and I have a good idea what you're talking about but you tell me .35 radians and I'll likely look at you like your a Martian. :smile:
 

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