Will a Particle Remain in Equilibrium if Three Reversed Forces are Removed?

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The discussion revolves around a particle influenced by five forces, three of which are reversed. The original poster seeks to understand whether the particle will remain in equilibrium if these three reversed forces are removed. The subject area pertains to the principles of equilibrium in mechanics.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore the balance of forces required for equilibrium and question the implications of removing certain forces. There is a focus on whether the remaining forces can maintain equilibrium and how to mathematically express this situation.

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Some participants have provided mathematical formulations to support the original poster's reasoning. There is an ongoing exploration of the relationships between the forces and their contributions to equilibrium, with no explicit consensus reached yet.

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Participants are discussing the assumptions regarding the forces' interactions and the conditions under which equilibrium is maintained. The original problem does not provide specific numerical values or additional constraints, which may influence the discussion.

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Homework Statement


A particle is under the influence of 5 forces. Three of these forces are reversed, and the particle remains in equilibrium. Prove that the particle will remain in equilibrium even if these three forces were removed altogether.

The Attempt at a Solution


My thinking for this is:
With three of the forces gone, the 2 forces (F1 and F2 ) left must balance the system if its to remain at equilibrium.
If change of forces occurs, the system will react by moving to a new state of equilibrium.
No reaction means that the 3 forces in the question cancel out each other, and no shift occurs.
If the three forces balance to 0, there is no need to have them as acting on the particle.

Right?

If I am right, Is there any maths way to say this, or a better way to explain what I am trying to say. Thank you in advance.
 
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Final_HB said:

Homework Statement


A particle is under the influence of 5 forces. Three of these forces are reversed, and the particle remains in equilibrium. Prove that the particle will remain in equilibrium even if these three forces were removed altogether.

The Attempt at a Solution


My thinking for this is:
With three of the forces gone, the 2 forces (F1 and F2 ) left must balance the system if its to remain at equilibrium.
If change of forces occurs, the system will react by moving to a new state of equilibrium.
No reaction means that the 3 forces in the question cancel out each other, and no shift occurs.
If the three forces balance to 0, there is no need to have them as acting on the particle.

Right?

If I am right, Is there any maths way to say this, or a better way to explain what I am trying to say. Thank you in advance.

You are right, but it can be formulated mathematically. Write up the sum of forces for both cases, and manipulate the equations.

ehild
 
Well...

F1+F2+F3+F4+F5=0

And for the second:
F1+F2-F3-F4-F5=0

taking one away from the other gives us:
2F1+2F2=0
So,
F1+F2=0
 
Final_HB said:
Well...

F1+F2+F3+F4+F5=0

And for the second:
F1+F2-F3-F4-F5=0

taking one away from the other gives us:
2F1+2F2=0
So,
F1+F2=0

If you mean subtract " by taking one away from the other" the result is 2(F3+F4+F5)=0, so the resultant of these three forces is zero, they can be omitted. And then F1+F2=0, too.

ehild
 

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