To prove that three forces are in equilibrium

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The discussion revolves around proving that three forces acting at the circumcenter of triangle PQR are in equilibrium. The forces are directed towards the midpoints of the triangle's sides, and the problem involves understanding the relationships between these forces and the triangle's geometry.

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  • Participants explore the geometric relationships between the forces and the triangle, questioning the perpendicularity of the forces to the triangle's sides. There is an attempt to apply a known relationship involving force magnitudes and directions.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing hints and clarifications. Some participants have offered insights into the geometric properties of the triangle and the conditions under which the forces may be in equilibrium. There is a recognition of the need to carefully consider the assumptions about the triangle's properties.

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Participants note that the circumcenter's properties and the midpoints of the sides are crucial to understanding the problem. There is an emphasis on the need for accurate geometric representation and the implications of the triangle's configuration on the forces involved.

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Homework Statement
To prove that three forces are in equilibrium
Relevant Equations
Equating of forces
Could I please ask for help regarding the following question:

D, E and F are the midpoints of the sides QR, RP and PQ respectively of triangle PQR whose circumcenter is O. Forces of magnitude kQR, kRP and kPQ act at O in directions ##\overrightarrow{OD}##, ##\overrightarrow{OE}## and ##\overrightarrow{OF}## respectively.

Prove that the forces are in equilibrium.


I am allowed to make use of the following fact, (although I am free to answer the question any other way):

theorem.png

With both forces going away from A we have:

##p\overrightarrow{AB}## + ##q\overrightarrow{AC}## = ##(p+q)\overrightarrow{AD}##

where

##BD:DC = q:p##

Here's a diagram for the problem (the green stuff is referenced in my solution below where I attempt to apply the above fact).

solution..png


I was hoping to show that the kPQ and kQR forces combined to give a force which was opposite (so ##\overrightarrow{OX}## would be opposite to ##\overrightarrow{OE}## ) and of equal size to the kRP force by using the above fact. Well straight off I see that this would give a force of magnitude k(QR + PQ) which I would need to be equal to kRP, and I can't see how that can be so.

Thanks for any help,
Mitch.
 
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Can you show that the three forces form a closed triangle if you move them around parallel to themselves? Sure.
 
kuruman said:
Can you show that the three forces form a closed triangle if you move them around parallel to themselves? Sure.
Thanks for your hint. I think it has enabled me to see it: I see that the three forces have lengths which are in the same proportion to each other as the original triangle,. Now, because O is the circumcentre then it must be the case that each of the forces is perpendicular to the side of the original triangle that it intersects (e.g. OD is perpendicular to rq etc). So the lines are of the right length and relative orientation to each other to form a closed triangle which is similar to the original. (Now, I doubt myself, D is the midpoint of rq, doesn't mean that OD is perpendicular to rq though). Ok, it does because O, being the circumcentre, is equidistant from r and q).
 
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Not quite.
gnits said:
Now, because O is the circumcentre then it must be the case that each of the forces is perpendicular to the side of the original triangle that it intersects (e.g. OD is perpendicular to rq etc).
I don't think that this true. The problem says that OD intersects rq at its midpoint. This doesn't necessarily make OD perpendicular to rq. It would be perpendicular if rq were the base of an isosceles triangle, pr=pq. We are not told that this is the case here. Hint: You can construct a triangle uniquely if you are given (a) one side and the two angles that it is part of, (b) two sides and the angle between them, (c) all three sides.
 
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O as the circumcentre must be equidistant from all the vertices. Thus ORQ is an isosceles triangle and OD is perpendicular to QR. D,O,P are not necessarily collinear. O is not the centroid. (It might help to redraw the diagram more accurately.)
 
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To @gnits:
Let me provide a most generous second hint, but before you proceed reading this post, please reread the hint in post #4, paying special attention to case (c).

Most generous second hint: Line segments ##RP##, ##PQ## and ##QR## form a triangle if put together. Can lengths ##kRP##, ##kPQ## and ##kQR## (where ##k## is a constant) also form a triangle if put together? Why or why not?
 
Thanks to everyone for their help, kuruman's was particularly of help to me, I am most grateful. These have helped me to see my way to the answer. Thanks again, Mitch.
 
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