Will CERN Discover New Physics Beyond the Higgs Boson?

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The discussion revolves around the potential discoveries at CERN, particularly in relation to the Higgs boson and other theoretical concepts in particle physics. Participants express their hopes, theories, and opinions on what CERN might uncover, including the implications of finding or not finding certain particles.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express a desire to find the Higgs boson, viewing it as a neat solution to existing theories.
  • Others suggest that finding nothing could be more exciting, as it would challenge current understanding and lead to new questions.
  • There are humorous references to the Higgs boson and its implications, including playful analogies involving maritime terms.
  • One participant mentions the significance of CP violation, indicating interest in its implications for the weak force.
  • Some participants question the relationship between the Higgs boson and concepts like the Dirac Sea, indicating a mix of serious inquiry and light-hearted banter.
  • There are references to historical experiments, such as Michelson and Morley, to illustrate points about discovery and expectation in physics.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on whether finding the Higgs boson or finding nothing would be more significant. There are multiple competing views on the implications of potential discoveries at CERN.

Contextual Notes

Some statements reflect uncertainty about the implications of discoveries, and there are playful exchanges that may obscure serious scientific inquiry. The discussion includes a mix of speculative ideas and humor, which may affect the clarity of technical arguments.

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This is a what does the future hold question and its also an opinion based question, although please trying keep the guesses educated at least.

I hope it's going to turn up a Higgs Bosun just because its a neat solution, what about you. I am well aware the whole focus is not even remotely just on this issue it's just an example, so what's your pet theory or "theory" and will it be proved or disproved by CERN, or will it just become more likely.

Keep it real people, of course CERN is not going to find God staring back at them or the holy grail unless of course you mean the God particle or a GUT. :-p
 
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It'd be nice if we could find the Higgs boson.
 
Does the Higgs Bosun help navigate across the Dirac Sea?
 
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Would a higgsino then be a Bosuns Mate?
 
jhae2.718 said:
It'd be nice if we could find the Higgs boson.

I think it'd be far more exciting if they found nothing.

Think of how boring things would be if Michelson and Morley detected the flow of luminiferous aether.
 
A black hole.
 
I would be happy with CP violation.
 
Gokul43201 said:
Does the Higgs Bosun help navigate across the Dirac Sea?

Aye with fair winds and canny navigation we should find where the holy grail lies.
 
Jack21222 said:
I think it'd be far more exciting if they found nothing.

Think of how boring things would be if Michelson and Morley detected the flow of luminiferous aether.

I don't think it would kill the standard model certainly but it would need to be revised assuming they manage to reach the upper limits.
 
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Jimmy Snyder said:
A black hole.

Yes and the whole Earth will be destroyed. :-p
 
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nismaratwork said:
I would be happy with CP violation.

Meh the weak force is CP variant.
 
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Vanadium 50 said:
Would a higgsino then be a Bosuns Mate?

I presume the graviton would be the cabin boy..?
 
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Jack21222 said:
I think it'd be far more exciting if they found nothing.

Think of how boring things would be if Michelson and Morley detected the flow of luminiferous aether.

M&M didn't find "nothing", they answered a question. Higher energy experiments will yield something new (in terms of answers to questions) whether or not it matches expectations.
 
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Pythagorean said:
M&M didn't find "nothing", they answered a question. Higher energy experiments will yield something new (in terms of answers to questions) whether or not it matches expectations.

I never New Marshall Mathers was a theoretical/experimental physicist, he kept that one quiet. :wink:
 
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Calrid said:
I never New Marshall Mathers was a theoretical/experimental physicist, he kept that one quiet. :wink:

well, it's a terrible image for the hip hop market; especially for a scrawny white boy.
 

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