Will I have any options if I graduate Physics with a 2.6 gpa?

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The discussion centers around the challenges faced by a physics student with a 2.6 GPA, exploring options for improving academic performance and future career prospects. Topics include the possibility of retaking courses, the importance of foundational math skills, and considerations for internships and job opportunities in physics and related fields.

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  • One participant expresses concern about job prospects with a low GPA and suggests evaluating the reasons for academic struggles, including time management and study habits.
  • Another participant emphasizes the need for a deeper understanding of the material rather than just rote learning, recommending interactive study methods and collaboration with peers and professors.
  • A participant identifies as a late bloomer and contemplates whether to retake Mechanics or proceed to EM 2, expressing uncertainty about the necessary math skills for the latter.
  • Suggestions are made to review lower division courses over the summer to strengthen foundational knowledge in mechanics, electromagnetism, and optics.
  • There is a discussion about the potential content of EM 2, with one participant recommending a review of vector calculus and specific textbooks to prepare.
  • Concerns are raised about whether retaking Mechanics is advisable, with a focus on identifying underlying issues affecting performance in physics.

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Participants generally agree on the importance of addressing foundational knowledge and study habits, but there is no consensus on whether retaking courses or focusing on new material is the best approach. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best path forward for the student.

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Participants express varying levels of uncertainty about the specific math requirements for advanced courses and the effectiveness of different study strategies. There are also references to personal experiences that may not apply universally.

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Students struggling with physics coursework, those considering a career in STEM fields, and individuals interested in improving their academic performance may find this discussion relevant.

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I was a Music major for three years and have been Physics for the last 2. I have two more years and while I love learning(trying to) about Physics I have had an extremely difficult time. I rushed through the lower div courses and did not do well. I was not prepared for my first year of upper div. This is how it went. I worked a measly 10 hours a week throughout if that matters. I was heartbroken by E&M in Spring because I blew off everything else and focused almost completely on that class. I would feel ok walking into a test and walkout feeling like I had no idea what I was doing and like I hadn't studied most of the week for it. I am now trying to figure out whether to retake Mechanics/Pull up future grades to try for Masters program or just keep going and try for industry job. I am also terrified about job prospects as I have read some horror stories online from people with good grades who can't find a job. I am also curious about the fields of Engineering and BioPhysics and a little in Finance. I feel like I have dedicated the last 2 years of my life to this and have a transcript that looks like I was just goofing off. I find this very discouraging and typically fall asleep trying to figure out what is wrong with me. I am interested in a summer internship to help with my record but all the physics one seem very competitive as well. It feels like Physics is this thing that I'm looking at from the outside.

Fall 2012 (worked about 20 hours/week first half of this semester)

Analytical Mechanics C
Modern Physics B-
Theoretical Physics C
Modern Lab C-
Diff EQ/Lin Alg D+

Spring 2013

E&M 1 C+
CProgramming C+
Diff EQ/Lin Alg A-
GE Class B+
 
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I imagine you would have a hard time finding a job with those grades, especially if the trend continues through your more advanced courses.

You need to figure out why you're having such a hard time. Is it because your job is taking up too much time? It may require that you quit, take out a loan, and accept the fact that your education will cost you a little bit more. Are you talking to your professors and peers when you don't understand something? Are you involved in projects and activities that make use of the coursework? I find that this is a very effective way of learning. If you're taking C programming and Linear algebra, write a program to model planetary motion for example (or something else that interests you).

You don't need to lose hope, but you obviously need to make a change if you want things to turn around.
 
You don't have a transcript demonstrating you've been goofing off, you have one that shows you lack understanding. Honestly, I don't see it getting better, unless you go back to all the courses you struggled in and find out why you did so terrible.

Physics is extremely difficult, but I often find people who have the toughest time with it are the late bloomers. People who had to sure up their math skills and then (or at the same time) take the physics. Math and science take a very interactive ability to read and study. You have to go in there and make mistakes to fully comprehend it. By simply reading the textbook and redoing problems, you're hurting yourself. So ask yourself these questions:

1)By the time of the test, can you solve most of the problems given to you for homework (and perhaps a few not given) without referencing an answer or looking it up?
2)When you study, do you reread chapters, make note, and essentially become interactive with the material?
3)Do you spend time with your professor trying to understanding the underlying concept or is must of your time spend there figuring out just one problem?
4)Do you reference multiple books on the subject and form study groups?
 
I would consider myself a late bloomer. I'm just wondering if I should retake Mechanics this Fall or take EM 2. I was also thinking of just reviewing lower div mechanics/em/optics this summer. I have split up my senior year into two years so even though I have two years left I only have to take two classes per semester. I know that my Math skills are not as sharp as they need to be but I'm not sure what I really need to work on in that department. I don't know what kind of math is needed for EM 2 vs EM 1.

Also, writing a program that models an EM problem sounds fun so I will explore that.
 
Should I retake Mechanics or take EM 2? What can I work on this summer to prepare for the math in EM 2?
 
I don't know what EM 2 consists of. If it involve vector calculus, I'd review that. Break out your multivariable calc notes/book and review. Think about reviewing a book like:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/0393925161/?tag=pfamazon01-20

If the course is based on Griffiths, possibly think about buying the book ahead of time and starting to read through it.

With respect to redoing mechanics, that might be a good idea, or it might not. As mentioned above, it's probably more important to figure out what is preventing you from doing better and fix that. Easier said than done, I know. It's also quite possible that you and physics just aren't a good match. Have you had a good conversation with your academic advisor about this?
 
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