Will the Coastguard's Intervention Prevent a Ship Collision?

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The discussion revolves around the motion of two ships monitored by a coastguard station, focusing on their velocities and positions over time. The problem involves vector representation and relative motion in a two-dimensional plane, specifically using unit vectors i and j to denote east and north directions.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss how to represent the relative position vector between the two ships and the implications of their velocities on potential collision. Questions arise regarding the conditions under which one ship is due north of another and the interpretation of vector components.

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Some participants have provided guidance on representing vectors and the need to account for changing positions over time. There is an ongoing exploration of how to correctly interpret the conditions for one ship being due north of another, with differing opinions on the necessary conditions for the i components of their position vectors.

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Participants note confusion regarding the notation used in the problem, particularly the meaning of "hat" in relation to unit vectors, and the implications of the coastguard's instructions on ship A's speed. There is also mention of the need to clarify the assumptions about the ships' movements and their initial positions.

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In this question, the horizontal unit vectors i and j are directed due east and north respectively.

A coastguard station O monitors the movements of ships in a channel. At noon, the station's radar records two ships moving with constant speed. Ship A is at the point with position vector (−3i+10j)km relative to O and has velocity (2i+2j)kmh−1. Ship B is at the point with position vector (6i+j)km and has velocity (−i+5j)kmh−1.

a Show that if the two ships maintain these velocities they will collide.

The coastguard radios ship A and orders it to reduce its speed to move with velocity (i+j)kmh−1. Given that A obeys this order and maintains this new constant velocity.

b find an expression for the vector AB→ at time t hours after noon,

c find, to three significant figures, the distance between A and B at 1500 hours,

d find the time at which B will be due north of A.

a) done
b) (9-2t)i + (-9+4t)j done
c) done
d) I'm not sure how to do this but I thought if B will be due north of A, then the i components should be the same no? so I done this i.e 10+t = 16 => t = 6 however this is wrong and in the solutions they say that the i component should be equal to 0, however in the next question:


Two ships P and Q are moving along straight lines with constant velocities. Initially P is at a point O and the position vector of Q relative to O is (12i+6j)km, where i and j are unit vectors directed due east and due north respectively. Ship P is moving with velocity 6ikmh−1 and ship Q is moving with velocity (−3i+6j)kmh−1. At time t hours the position vectors of P and Q relative to O are p km and q km respectively.

a Find p and q in terms of t.

b Calculate the distance of Q from P when t=4.

c Calculate the value of t when Q is due north of P.


Part c) they say that it's when the i components are equal, which is what I done for the first question.

Could anyone explain what is going on?
 
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(d) the vector \vec{AB} will only have a \vec{j} component.
 
How did you get the answer for part b in that 1st question?
I'm stuck on how to represent AB
 
Welcome to PF;
How did you get the answer for part b in that 1st question?
Vector addition.

I'm stuck on how to represent AB
Represent the vectors by arrows on a bit of graph paper and work it out.
AB is the vector pointing from point A to point B.
How would you normally do that?
 
I would use i+I notation. But I can't be sure that
 
Sorry. Message accidentally sent before finished
 
I can't be sure that the position of the ships haven't changed
 
The positon of the ships does change - their relative position changes too.
So you need to represent their positions as a vector that changes in time.

i.e. if ship A traveled at speed 3kmph 45deg from the +x axis starting at position ##\vec a_0= 3\hat\jmath##km, then it's position vector will be ##\vec a = (3\hat\imath + (3+3t)\hat\jmath)##km.
 
I'm not sure what hat means
 
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indicates a unit vector:
##\hat\imath = \mathbf{i}##, ##\hat\jmath = \mathbf{j}##, ##\hat k = \mathbf{k}##
... are the Cartesian unit vectors.

In general: $$\hat v = \frac{\vec v}{v}$$
 
  • #11
The book doesn't mention hat. It just says that the coastguard radios ship A to reduce speed to i+j kmh-1
 
  • #12
Do you know what the i and j mean?
 
  • #13
It's fine. I got an answer. Thank you
 

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