Word Game: Language-Related Clues and Lingustic Q&A

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The discussion revolves around a word game focused on language-related clues and linguistic questions. Participants share clues about words, engage in guessing, and explore the etymology and meanings of various terms, including those from different languages and historical contexts.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant introduces a word game involving clues about language-related words, encouraging others to participate and ask questions about linguistics.
  • Another participant attempts to guess a word related to a lung disease, questioning the clues provided and seeking clarification on the consonant cluster mentioned.
  • Several participants express the need for additional clues to aid in guessing, indicating uncertainty about the hints given.
  • Discussion includes various guesses for words based on clues, with some participants noting the difficulty of the clues and the need for fair play in guessing.
  • Participants explore the historical context of words like "sinople" in heraldry and its obscure nature, with some expressing frustration over the difficulty of the game.
  • There are multiple guesses for words related to the clues, with some participants referencing their sources or prior knowledge of the terms.
  • One participant mentions the connection between the word "sabot" and its historical context during the industrial revolution, explaining its etymology.
  • Another participant brings up the word "dumbledore," linking it to J.R.R. Tolkien and discussing its archaic usage.
  • Participants continue to share clues and guesses, with some expressing confusion over the intended meanings and sounds referenced in the clues.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the format of the game and the sharing of clues, but there is no consensus on some of the specific words or meanings being discussed, leading to multiple competing guesses and interpretations.

Contextual Notes

Some clues are noted to be particularly obscure or difficult, leading to reliance on external sources for guesses. The discussion reflects varying levels of familiarity with linguistic terminology and historical context.

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How to play: Think of a word or something language-related. Give us some clues. If someone guesses it correctly, they go next. Any kinks can be ironed out as they turn up.

Some handy links to get everyone started: http://www.etymonline.com/
http://www.onelook.com/
http://starling.rinet.ru/cgi-bin/main.cgi?flags=eygnnnl
http://www.ethnologue.com/family_index.asp
http://cf.linguistlist.org/cfdocs/new-website/LL-WorkingDirs/langres/index.html
_____This English noun made it's way over from India. It refers to a mammal but sounds half-bird, which might explain why its plural is sometimes irregular. _____
P.S. If anyone has any questions about languages or linguistics along the way, please ask. Please! I don't get to talk to others about that kind of stuff enough! :frown: :biggrin:
 
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honestrosewater said:
How to play: Think of a word or something language-related. Give us some clues. If someone guesses it correctly, they go next. Any kinks can be ironed out as they turn up.

Some handy links to get everyone started: http://www.etymonline.com/
http://www.onelook.com/
http://starling.rinet.ru/cgi-bin/main.cgi?flags=eygnnnl
http://www.ethnologue.com/family_index.asp
_____


This English noun made it's way over from India. It refers to a mammal but sounds half-bird, which might explain why its plural is sometimes irregular.


_____
P.S. If anyone has any questions about languages or linguistics along the way, please ask. Please! I don't get to talk to others about that kind of stuff enough! :frown: :biggrin:


Mongoose.

This English word, denoting a lung disease, descends from the indo-european word for destruction, and has preserved the difficult IE consonant cluster.
 
I haven't really gotten anywhere with this one. I don't know much about languages or how they've been categorized, so just to clarify, do you mean the hypothetical Proto-Indo-European (PIE) word for destruction? It seems like Indo-European is the family of languages that descended from PIE.?

The difficult consonant cluster is part of the word, right? If so, that's probably the most helpful clue for me. Just looking at some lung diseases, emphysema is the only one that strikes me as having a difficult cluster, /mf/, but the meaning doesn't seem to fit (in fact, the meaning seems to be going in the opposite direction, towards breath and life).

If no one else steps in, I'd probably need another clue...

BTW, how did you get my clue so quickly? That was really fast. :approve:
 
Hmm.. I think another clue might be needed here.

(Good game by the way!)
 
matthyaouw said:
Hmm.. I think another clue might be needed here.
(Good game by the way!)


Starts with a p and is just about but not quite obsolete.
 
pforgotten??
That's a difficult conconant cluster at least.
 
I am going to give it up tomorrow. Any more tries?
 
Pneumonia? I was going to guess that, but I was thinking pronunciation instead of spelling. Argh.
 
I was going to guess pneumonia as well, but couldn't see where the "decends from IE word meaning destruction" and "just about but not quite obsolete" hints come in.
 
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honestrosewater said:
Cool. So do you want to go again?

OK. In geology it denotes something red, but in Heraldry it means green.
 
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Wild guess, vermillion?
 
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I'm thinking something realating to "haem"?
 
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Vert? Verdigris??
That's about the associations I get from "green+heraldry".
No connection that I know of to geology, though..
 
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I found it, but half by accident, with a little too much google for it to be considered 'fair play' so I'll leave others to guess. No one is close yet.
 
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Hint. Although "vert" is the usual word for green in English heraldry, historically there were also other words, and modern heraldists have to know them to interpret old blazons (BTW, a blazon is a formal description in specialized language of a coat of arms).
 
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Had to Google too much to be fair about it, but it is a very obscure word, so perhaps we'll let it slip if too much time passes. It's be a sin to let such a possibly entertaining game die for lack of participation.
 
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The word is http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Sinople" .

In the 16th century a fad for describing nobles' arms, as distinguished from knights' and commoners' with special terms introduced sinople and other outre words into heraldry. Although righteously scornful of such foolishness, modern armorists have retained the words in their vocabulary.
 
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selfAdjoint said:
The word is http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Sinople" .
In the 16th century a fad for describing nobles' arms, as distinguished from knights' and commoners' with special terms introduced sinople and other outre words into heraldry. Although righteously scornful of such foolishness, modern armorists have retained the words in their vocabulary.
Yep! But like Matt, I had to Google around to find it. If I may offer a word (and this will be a real easy one for someone!)
Shoe for a destructive anti-revolutionary.
 
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Sabot...
 
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AKG said:
Sabot...
Bingo. When the industrial revolution hit France, laborers would throw wooden clogs (sabots) into the carved and hand-fitted wooden cog-wheels and bust things up pretty badly. The labor movement (peasants doing hand-work being put out of work by mills) was pretty strong. This is the root of the word saboteur.
 
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Yup, I learned that from watching Star Trek probably 10 years ago. I don't know if this will be any good:

a machine designed to fly by flapping mechanical wings
 
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ornithopter
 
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yeah, I didn't think it would be a good one... your go I guess.
 
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A loud flying bug.
 
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Hint: wizard
 
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Hint: Name of a house.
 
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One more hint: Potter
 
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Bumblebee? (through Dumbledore, wizard in the Harry Potter books). But then it could be a dor (June bug) too.
 

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