Work and Bernoulli Eqn in Rotating Frame with Constant Angular Speed

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a rotating disk and the application of the Bernoulli equation in a rotating frame. The original poster presents two questions: one regarding the work required to move a mass radially on the disk and another about formulating the Bernoulli equation under the conditions of rotation.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the meaning of "body of mass" and its implications in the context of the problem. There are attempts to clarify the relationship between the mass and the forces acting on it due to the disk's rotation. Questions arise about how to calculate the work involved and the connection to the Bernoulli equation.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing clarifications and exploring different interpretations of the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding definitions and concepts, but no consensus has been reached on the calculations or the specific relationships between the components of the problem.

Contextual Notes

Participants note potential confusion regarding the definitions and roles of mass in the context of the rotating disk, as well as the application of the Bernoulli equation in this scenario. There is an acknowledgment of the need for further exploration of the concepts involved.

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Q 1:Consider a disk of radius R. This disk is rotating around its center with a constarnt angular speed of w. Find the necessary work to move a body of mass m radially with respect to the disk from r=a to r=b.

Q 2:The Bernoulli equation for a unit mass can be written as

gdz+1/2VdV+vdP=0

where g is the gravitational acceleration, z the height, V the speed of fluid, v the specific volume, and P the pressure.

Referring to the Problem 1, write the Bernoulli equaiton in a rotating frame with a constant angualr speed of w.

please help. I don't really get what the qeustion asks. What is the body of mass? I might get confused between it and a center of mass.
Thx.
 
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hi notojosh! :smile:
notojosh said:
… Find the necessary work to move a body of mass m radially with respect to the disk from r=a to r=b.

What is the body of mass?

it just means "a body which has mass m"

(it's a special meaning of "of" …

we say "a person of average height", "a person of 50kg weight", "a maiden of fair countenance" etc :wink:)​
 
I think something with mass m is on the disk and since the disk is rotating there is centrifugar force to move that thing from a to b...Does anyone have any idea how to calculate the work? Also how this is related in q.2?

josh
 
hi josh! :smile:

work done is defined as force "dot" displacement :wink:
 
notojosh said:
I think something with mass m is on the disk
Yes, correct.
... and since the disk is rotating there is centrifugar force to move that thing from a to b...Does anyone have any idea how to calculate the work?
Check in your textbook or class notes for the definition of work. You will find an equation there you can use.
 

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