Constant angular speed loop of wire

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The problem involves a loop of wire rotating about the y-axis at a constant angular speed, with a magnetic field present in the +i direction. The objective is to determine the torque required to maintain this constant angular speed.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between torque, current, and magnetic fields, referencing relevant equations such as those for torque and magnetic force. There is uncertainty about the direction of forces and how they change as the loop rotates.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively exploring the relationships between the variables involved, with some expressing confidence in their understanding while others seek clarification. A sketch has been referenced to aid in visualizing the problem, and there is a mix of agreement and questioning regarding the interpretations of forces and torques.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of a sketch that may not accurately represent the situation, leading to potential misunderstandings about force cancellation. Participants are also navigating the implications of using Faraday's law and the effects of rotation on the system.

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Homework Statement



You have a loop of wire (dimensions c and d) which is oriented vertically on the y-axis (the y-axis splits the rectangle in two equal pieces), and rotates about the y-axis at constant angular ##\omega##. The magnetic field is in the +i direction.

What would be the torqque needed to have the loop rotate at a constant w?


Homework Equations

##\tau = NIAB\sin\theta##

The Attempt at a Solution



##\mathcal{E} = B(cd)\omega \sin( \omega t )## from Faraday's law.

##I = \dfrac{B(cd)\omega\sin (\omega t)}{R}##

I am not sure how to proceed from here...what do I set the torque, ##\tau = NIAB\sin\theta## equal to?
 
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You have a current flow in a magnetic field. Do you see any forces from this?
 
I see ##F_B = ILB\sin\theta##, however, I can't tell which direction they are going in, and doesn't it change as the loop rotates?
 
however, I can't tell which direction they are going in
Did you draw a sketch?
In principle, you don't need that, if you use the cross-product.[/size].

and doesn't it change as the loop rotates?
Sure it does.
 
Yeah, I drew a sketch.
How about ##F_B = ILB \sin\omega t##?
From my sketch, it seems that all the forces cancel though... hint please :smile:
 
darksyesider said:
Yeah, I drew a sketch.
How about ##F_B = ILB \sin\omega t##?
Looks good.

From my sketch, it seems that all the forces cancel though... hint please :smile:
Then your sketch might be wrong. As I don't have the sketch, I can't say which part.
 
OH wait, would it be:

##\tau = IA\times B = IAB\sin (\omega t)##
## I(cd)B\sin\omega t##

Then plug in I from the equation in the original post ? i am fairly confident on this now.
 
Looks good.
 
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