Work done against friction for a car with 125 KJ KE.

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The problem involves a 1200 kg car with a kinetic energy of 125 kJ descending a 20-degree slope and rising to a height of 10 m. The goal is to calculate the work done against friction during this process.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to calculate the work done against friction using kinetic energy and gravitational potential energy, but expresses uncertainty about their approach. They explore different equations and calculations, including the relationship between energy lost and work done against friction.
  • Some participants question the interpretation of the height and distance traveled, suggesting a possible misunderstanding of the problem statement.
  • There is discussion about whether the energy lost is equivalent to the work done against friction, with some participants affirming this assumption.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring various interpretations and calculations. There is a focus on clarifying the problem's wording and ensuring the correct approach is taken. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between energy lost and work done against friction, but no consensus has been reached on the correct method or answer.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the assumption that friction is the only source of energy loss, and there is uncertainty regarding the exact wording of the problem related to the height and distance traveled.

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"A 1200kg car as kinetic energy 125kJ at the bottom of a 20 degree slope. It rises to a height of 10m. Calculate work done against friction."

Relevant equations:

Work = force x distance in direction of that force

Work = KE = 1/2 x m x v^2

I'm not really sure where to start...tried several things but haven't got anywhere.

For example:

Work done = KE
125000J = 1/2 x 1200 x v^2
V^2 = 125000/600 = 208.3
V = 14.4 m/s

Or

GPE at top of slope = mgh
1200 x 9.81 x 10 = 117,720

Energy lost = 125000 - 117720 = 7280 J

But neither of these answer the question.

Also tried

Distance traveled = 10/sin20 = 29.24m

So f = 125000/29.24 = 4274.9J buy apparently that's wrong.

Someone please help? :-)
 
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Molly1235 said:
GPE at top of slope = mgh
1200 x 9.81 x 10 = 117,720

Energy lost = 125000 - 117720 = 7280 J
This is the one you want.

If that's not right: Are you sure it says "rises to a height " of 10m? Maybe they meant that it travels up the ramp a distance of 10 m?
 
Doc Al said:
This is the one you want.

If that's not right: Are you sure it says "rises to a height " of 10m? Maybe they meant that it travels up the ramp a distance of 10 m?

I tried it that way as well and none of the answers match up (it's multiple choice). Hm, perhaps I copied the answers/some of the question down wrong!
 
Doc Al said:
This is the one you want.

If that's not right: Are you sure it says "rises to a height " of 10m? Maybe they meant that it travels up the ramp a distance of 10 m?

So just to confirm, would the energy lost be the same as the work done against friction?
 
Molly1235 said:
So just to confirm, would the energy lost be the same as the work done against friction?
Yes, assuming friction is the only source of energy "loss".
 
Molly1235 said:
I tried it that way as well and none of the answers match up (it's multiple choice). Hm, perhaps I copied the answers/some of the question down wrong!

What are the choices?
 

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