Work Done, Uniformly Charged Ring

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The problem involves calculating the work done to move a point charge from the center of a uniformly charged ring to infinity along the axis of the ring. The subject area pertains to electrostatics and electric fields.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to use an energy formula involving the electric field to calculate work done, but questions the validity of this approach after receiving feedback from a professor. Other participants discuss the implications of using energy stored in fields and the necessity of knowing the electric field everywhere, not just along the axis.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different methods to approach the problem. Some guidance has been provided regarding the use of potential along the axis of the ring, but there is no explicit consensus on the best approach yet.

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Participants are considering the implications of symmetry in electric fields and the need for comprehensive knowledge of the electric field configuration in the problem setup.

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Charge Q uniformly spread through the ring of radius a. Find the work done to bring point charge q from the center of ring to infinity along the axis through the center of ring.

From a previous problem I calculated E=kQz/(z^2+a^2)^1.5

I then tried to apply the formula W=eo/2\intE^2 dz integrating from 0 to infinity.

As a result I got -Q^2/(1024a^3).

However the professor on my paper just put an x on it, indicating that it was wrong & then wrote down use the formula W=q(Vo-Vinfinity).

So my question is, can I not apply the formula I used for the equation? If not, why?
 
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kuahji said:
I then tried to apply the formula W=eo/2\intE^2 dz integrating from 0 to infinity.

As a result I got -Q^2/(1024a^3).


The formula you are referring to is actually

U=\frac{\epsilon_0}{2}\int_{\text{all space}}E^2 d^3\textbf{r}

It gives the amount of energy stored in the fields. You could use it to calculate;

(1) the amount of energy stored in the fields when the point charge is at the center of the ring U_1

and

(2) the amount of energy stored in the fields when the point charge is at infinity U_2

and then conservation of energy would mean that the work done by the fields was W=U_1-U_2. But, in order to do this (since you integrate over all space), you would have to know the electric field due to both the ring and the point charge everywhere; not just on the axis of the ring.

It can be done this way, but it is MUCH easier to just calculate the potential due to the ring along its axis, and then use the formula your professor suggested.
 
Ok, I understand that you'd need to know the EF everywhere, but wouldn't it just be zero off the axis? Do to symmetry?
 
No, it would not be zero due to symmetry...off axis, there is no symmetry.
 

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