Work, Elastic and Kinetic Energy

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The problem involves a 2.4 kg body moving along the positive x-axis under the influence of a force described by Fx = -6x N. The initial conditions include the body's velocity at x = 3.0 m being 8.0 m/s, and the question seeks to determine the velocity at x = 4.0 m.

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between work and kinetic energy, with attempts to equate the work done by the force to the change in kinetic energy. Questions arise regarding the appropriate use of the spring constant and the correct expression for work given that the force varies with position.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on the correct approach to calculating work for a variable force, suggesting the use of integral calculus. There is acknowledgment of confusion regarding the spring force and its relevance to the problem, with some clarification on the correct signs in the equations being discussed.

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Participants note the absence of a spring in the physical setup, leading to questions about the necessity of the spring equation. There is also mention of potential sign errors in the equations being used, which may affect the interpretation of the work done.

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Homework Statement



The only force acting on a 2.4 kg body as it moves along the positive x-axis has an x component Fx = - 6x N, where x is in meters. The velocity of the body at x = 3.0 m is 8.0 m/s.
- What is the velocity of the body at x = 4.0 m?

Homework Equations


W = [tex]\Delta[/tex]0.5*m*v^2
that is for kinetic

W = [tex]\Delta[/tex]0.5kx^2

The Attempt at a Solution



I set the two equations equal to each other since no outside force is acting:
[tex]\Delta[/tex]0.5*m*v^2 = -[tex]\Delta[/tex]0.5kx^2 . . .
so . . . .
.5(2.4)(v^2) - .5(2.4)(8^2) = - .5(6)(3^2) - .5(6)(4^2)

is that right for the spring constant or is k = 6*x . . . .?
 
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Hi KMjuniormint5,

I don't see a spring in this problem so you don't need the spring expression. You have the formula that shows the effect of the work on the kinetic energy. Now what is the formula for the work done by a force?
 
w = F*d where d is the distance but it is only in the x direction. . let me try that
 
so (-6)(4^2)-(-6)(3^2) = .5(2.4)(v^2)-.5(2.4)(8^2) and solve for v?
 
KMjuniormint5 said:
w = F*d where d is the distance but it is only in the x direction. . let me try that

That would apply for a constant force where the force and motion are in the same direction.

However, this force varies with x, so you need to use the integral form.
 
take the intergal of F*d? . . .
 
For a particle moving in the x direction, the work done is:

[tex] W \equiv \int\limits_{x_i}^{x_f} F_x \ dx[/tex]
 
so the force is going to .5*(-6)(x)^2 with xi = 3 and xf = 4
 
KMjuniormint5 said:
so the force is going to .5*(-6)(x)^2 with xi = 3 and xf = 4

(You said force, but I'm sure you meant work.) Yes, that will be the work done from xi to xf once you evaluate it with the limits. Once you have that you can relate it to the change in kinetic energy.

On looking back at this thread, I have to apologize. That force is the force of a spring, of course, so what we are doing will lead back to something like what you were doing in your first thread.

The work for a spring is:

[tex] W = -\frac{1}{2} k x_f^2 + \frac{1}{2}k x_i^2[/tex]

which is the kind of idea you had for the work done originally. You did have a sign error in that equation, but if you use the above you should get the correct sign.
 
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ok ya. . .i was just confused about the spring part because they said to use the spring equation. . .all i had wrong was the sign. . . thanks a lot!
 

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