Work per particle of a NaCl chain

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The discussion focuses on calculating the work per particle for assembling an infinite NaCl chain. Participants clarify that the chain is indeed infinite and discuss the interaction energy between ions, specifically how to sum the energies of pairs involving a central ion. The importance of avoiding double counting in the calculations is emphasized, along with hints to simplify the work, such as using the series expansion of ln(2) and defining a constant for the interaction energy. The original poster confirms they have resolved the problem with the assistance of others.
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Homework Statement
Find the work per particle required to assemble such a configuration.
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W=qV
The problem states to find the work per particle to assemble the following NaCl chain.
I just want to post my work here to verify I have the correct answer.

My work is attached in the image provided.
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Is this chain supposed to be infinite? (or of length 8?)
 
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ergospherical said:
Is this chain supposed to be infinite? (or of length 8?)
Ah it does say infinite, I missed that in the question.
 
Right. Well in that case, focus on a particular ion in the chain (labelled "0" below):
##\dots \ominus_{-3} \oplus_{-2} \ominus_{-1} \oplus_0 \ominus_1 \oplus_{2} \ominus_{3} \dots##

Let the interaction energy between ##m## and ##n## be ##U(m,n)##. Assuming each ion to be separated by a distance ##a## from its nearest neighbours, what's the sum of the interaction energies of all the pairs including the ion ##n=0##, i.e. ##U(0,1) + U(-1,0) + U(0,2) + U(-2,0) + \dots##?

How might you use this to work out the total energy per particle, which is proportional to ##\sum\limits_{\substack{m,n \\ m<n}} U(m,n)##? Be careful not to double count.
 
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If you haven't already sorted this out, here are a couple of hints which should help:
- familiarise yourself with the series expansion of ##ln(2)##;
- make your working simpler/neater by defining ##A = \frac {q^2}{4 \pi \epsilon_0}##.
 
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I figured it out. Thank you both for your help.
 
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