Working as a nuclear engineer with M.Sc. Physics

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The discussion revolves around the potential for individuals with a Master of Science in Nuclear Physics to work as nuclear engineers or enter the nuclear industry. It explores the necessary qualifications, practical experiences, and the roles of nuclear engineers, as well as the relevance of different educational backgrounds in the field.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that it may be possible to work in the nuclear industry with a M.Sc. in Nuclear Physics, depending on how well one can present their skills.
  • Others argue that the specific roles assigned in the nuclear industry may depend on the individual's educational background and training.
  • A participant raises concerns about lacking training in thermal hydraulics and heat transfer, questioning how this might affect their employability in nuclear engineering roles.
  • One participant shares an anecdote about a friend with a mechanical engineering background working in a nuclear plant, emphasizing that many technical jobs are related to systems other than the reactor itself.
  • There is a mention of a historical debate regarding the qualifications required for reactor operators versus engineers, highlighting differing skill sets.
  • A participant inquires about the practical aspects of a Master's program in Nuclear Engineering, specifically regarding reactor operation and plant design.
  • Another participant discusses the importance of practical experience, such as reactor operation courses, and shares their own background in electrical engineering and how it contributed to their career in a nuclear plant.
  • There are suggestions to take courses in instrumentation and measurement techniques relevant to nuclear engineering, emphasizing their importance in the field.
  • A participant notes that many engineers in the nuclear field come from diverse educational backgrounds, including physics and even non-STEM fields.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the qualifications needed to work in nuclear engineering, with no clear consensus on whether a M.Sc. in Nuclear Physics is sufficient. The discussion includes multiple competing perspectives on the relevance of different educational backgrounds and practical experiences.

Contextual Notes

Some participants highlight the importance of specific training and coursework, such as reactor operation and instrumentation, while others point out that many engineers in the field have diverse academic backgrounds. There are also references to historical contexts where nuclear engineering programs were not as prevalent.

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IS it possible to work as nuclear engineer or getting into nuclear industry with a M.Sc. in Nuclear Physics instead of Nuclear Engineering?
 
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Absolutely maybe. You'll never know unless you try it. I don't think there are any laws against it, so it will just depend on how well you can sell yourself.
 
It will also depend on what you are assigned to do.
 
If let's say what if I learned some reactor physics, neutron transport but not any thermal hydraulic and heat transfer in my coursework and perhaps some experiment on the application of research reactor for my master thesis but never had any training in operating and controlling nuclear reactor how would it be?

Anyway, what are the roles of a nuclear engineer? And, what does a nuclear engineer need to knowledgeable in?
 
A friend once worked in a nuclear plant. He had a BS degree in mechanical engineering. His job was to supervise the ongoing testing and qualification of relief valves. Most of the technical jobs in a nuclear plant are related to the steam generator, steam turbine, electrical generation and controls, standby power, and general plant engineering functions. Not the nuclear reactor.

I remember reading about a debate after a major reactor failure. Apparently some politician thought that reactor operators should have degrees in nuclear engineering. It took some effort to persuade him that operators have an entirely different skill set than engineers, and that engineers would not make good operators.
 
Anyway, if I enroll in M.Sc. in Nuclear Engineering program, what would be the practical aspect of nuclear engineering that I'd expect to get exposed to? Training in reactor operation? nuclear power plant design?

I'm currently considering Russian university, MEPhI. Basically they offer 2 different program for nuclear related course: M.Sc. in Nuclear Physics and Technology, and M.Sc. in Nuclear Power Engineering and Thermal Physics.
 
Guan said:
what would be the practical aspect of nuclear engineering that I'd expect to get exposed to?

Every plant has a small cadre of nuclear engineers who tend to the reactor flux distribution measurements , fuel loading, tracking burnup and the like.
If your school has a test reactor by all means take a course in reactor operation. Learning the mechanics of approach to criticality, 1/m plots, expected instrument response is exciting.

I was an electrical engineer and just curious about the little windowless reactor building on campus. So i knocked on the door and inquired. Yes they offered a course in reactor operation , a semester of reactor physics was a prerequisite. My counselor let me apply those 6 hours of Nuclear toward my EE degree.
It gave me a huge head start on a career in a nuke plant. I had a decent electronics background so it was natural to fall into the instrument support group.

As a nuclear engineer take any courses you can in instrumentation for the instruments are your eyes into the reactor. Getting from volts to f(x,y,z) is not intuitive. Much of my worth to the plant was helping out with inter-discipline communication.

Learn to use an oscilloscope it's a skill you'll need for troubleshooting your nuclear instruments.
Learn how to use RTD's and thermocouples for temperature measurement.
Learn Bernoulli and venturi flowmeters for they're the heart of your calorimetric power measurement on which your reactor protection system safety settings are based. Being in South Florida near the equator we had to account for local gravity, 978.8 cm/s2, in ours.

Another thought would be a term in a nuclear navy. The US Navy nukes i worked with were all exceptionally intelligent knowledgeable and practical.

old jim
 
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I worked for years in nuclear engineering although my degrees were EE. Many of my fellow engineers had degrees in physics. I also know a programmer who worked on nuclear codes even though his degree was archaeology.

In the 60s most universities had no nuclear engineering programs, nor computer science.
 
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