Would an M.S. in Physics Complement a Ph.D. in Meteorology for a Professorship?

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A B.S. in Physics combined with a Ph.D. in Meteorology can qualify an individual for professorships in both fields, although the likelihood of securing a full-time position in Physics without a dedicated Ph.D. is low. Many universities maintain separate departments for Meteorology and Physics, complicating dual appointments. While adjunct positions may be available, especially in teaching-focused institutions, research universities typically require extensive qualifications, including post-doctoral experience. The discussion highlights the importance of understanding departmental structures and the potential for interdisciplinary roles.

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Hey everyone. I see people give a lot of great advice in this forum, so I'd like to get everyone's input. I have a B.S. in Physics and I'm getting ready to start a graduate program in Meteorology to work on my Ph.d. I really would like to be a professor in the future. Now, I know that jobs in academia are very, very hard to land. I'm aware of this, but this is what I want to do above everything else, so I have to try. I may end up forecasting somewhere (if I can find that), but I want to at least attempt a career as a professor or I will never be happy.

My question isn't about my chances to land a job, but about qualifications. Meteorology and Physics are very closely related as Meteorology can be considered a branch of Physics. However, Meteorology has branched out as it's own field as a lot of universities have Meteorology departments separate from Physics. If I were to also gain a M.S. in Physics in the future along with my Ph.D. in Meteorology, would I be qualified to be a professor of Physics for a Physics department as well as a Meteorology professor since the two fields are so closely related? I know of one department that a Meteorology professor who is tenured who teaches and conducts research for both the Meteorology department and the Engineering department. He told me he had a B.S and M.S. in Engineering and a Ph.D. in Meteorology. Surely, since the two are so closely related, I wouldn't need a Ph.D. in Physics and a Ph.D. in Meteorology. I would never consider two Ph.ds anyway. Just curious about this. Anyone know how this would work?

I would appreciate anyone's opinion on this. Thanks in advance.
 
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stormguy said:
Meteorology and Physics are very closely related as Meteorology can be considered a branch of Physics. However, Meteorology has branched out as it's own field as a lot of universities have Meteorology departments separate from Physics. [/QUOTE

If you want to be technical any physical and biological science or engineering field is an applied branch of physics.

I would say it is possible to be a Physics Professor with a PhD in Meteorology, but it do not be surprised if it is always an adjunct position. As an adjunct you most likely teach courses in your specialty. Probably would not teach most physics classes, due to the lack of a Physics PhD, depending on the school/program--except freshman/sophomore level courses. I also would think you probably could be on a physics student's committee, but would not advise physics students.

So, I would think Phd Physics and MS Meteorology would give the most freedom.

I honestly never came across dual-professor, they are usually a full professor in one department and adjunct in others.

Now if University has an interdisciplinary research institute/center or where there is a lot of collaboration between several departments, then they might be hiring faculty to be a full professor in two departments.

That being said, why would you want to put with two different administrations?
 
stormguy said:
If I were to also gain a M.S. in Physics in the future along with my Ph.D. in Meteorology, would I be qualified to be a professor of Physics for a Physics department as well as a Meteorology professor since the two fields are so closely related?

Pretty unlikely for a research university. Having two post-docs and a Ph.D. in the field is close to an absolute requirement for a physics professorship. For a teaching university or community college, it's possible, maybe even encouraged.
 
Goldenlemur said:
I honestly never came across dual-professor, they are usually a full professor in one department and adjunct in others.

I've only known one dual department professor, and he has a Nobel prize in physics.
 
If your interests are in meteorology, why does it matter if you have a professorship in physics if, as you say, meteorology is becoming its own separate department?

And I've seen a lot of physical chemists do atmospheric research. Not sure what to make of it, but its something I wanted to point out.

EDIT: something I want to point out. This is purely anecdotal evidence, but my school's physics department has 45 professors, 3 of whom have joint appointments. My school's chem department has about 50 professors, 10 of whom have joint appointments.
 

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