Would we see the planets move across the sky if Earth stops spinning

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The discussion revolves around the hypothetical scenario of Earth ceasing its rotation on its axis and its implications for observing planets and stars in the night sky. Participants explore the effects of Earth's orbital motion around the sun and the relative positions of other planets.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants examine how the lack of Earth's rotation would affect the visibility and apparent motion of planets and stars, questioning assumptions about light and darkness cycles. They discuss the implications of Earth's orbital motion and the distances of other planets from the sun.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with participants providing insights and clarifications about the nature of celestial motion. Some have offered conceptual frameworks for understanding the scenario, while others are seeking validation of their reasoning.

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There are references to the duration of night and day cycles, the concept of parallax, and the orbital characteristics of planets, which may influence the discussion but are not fully resolved.

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Homework Statement



If the Earth did not spin on its axis, would the other planets still appear to move across the sky? Justify your answer.

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If the Earth continued to rotate around the sun but NOT on it's own axis then wouldn't we see that there is roughly six months of light and six months of darkness and thus only be able to see the stars for half the year? That being said, since the Earth is still moving in respect to the sun, wouldn't we see the stars/planets (during the six months of darkness) shifting across the sky but not to completion and a lot slower (so not as fast as we do in a 24 hour period but still to some degree)?
 
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If we assume that our orbit around the sun is a circle of fixed radius (1 AU), then the relative position of a planet would depend on 1) its distance from the sun and 2) the space (temporarily speaking) of our two measurements. Neptune, for instance, is around 30 AU away from our sun and completes an orbit in approx. 165 years. An easy math can help in figuring out the length of the arc that this planet would have moved in a period, say, of 6 months. The same applies for the rest of the bodies of our solar system, and thus closer planets will experiment wider displacements. Remember that this technique (Parallax) is used to measure distance for stars in our own galaxy.
 
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Thanks so much for your reply. I understand what you are saying; but, conceptually speaking then would my answer be correct? or I guess, sufficiently correct?
 
If the Earth stops spinning then we would see a 'fixed' starry picture above our heads (at night, our long six-month night), for the stars are pinned far enough not to seem they're moving. Regarding to the planets, they would still be moving across the ecliptic line, because they keep orbiting on the plane of our galaxy. I suppose you're right when you say we would see them as we see now every night, but quite longer. That is, we could see Mercury completing several orbits during our night, but Jupiter (orbit approx. 12 y), for example, just moving some arc. Hope I made it a little bit clear :D
 
Yes, totally clear! thanks! :)
 
Good, have a good day! :)
 
You can sometimes see Venus in the daytime so I would ignore that issue.
 
kirsten_2009 said:
If the Earth continued to rotate around the sun but NOT on its own axis then wouldn't we see that there is roughly six months of light and six months of darkness and thus only be able to see the stars for half the year? That being said, since the Earth is still moving in respect to the sun, wouldn't we see the stars/planets (during the six months of darkness) shifting across the sky but not to completion and a lot slower (so not as fast as we do in a 24 hour period but still to some degree)?
I took me a while to figure out what you meant by "not to completion." I assume you mean the planets won't necessarily rise or set in this scenario.

There are three different types of motion involved in explaining what we observe in the night sky. There's the rotational motion of the Earth (about its axis), its orbital motion around the Sun, and (the one you seem to have neglected) the orbital motion of the other planets around the Sun.

As you correctly realized, the planets and stars will no longer rise and set because that apparent motion is due to the rotation of the Earth. What effect does the orbital motion of the other planets have on what we see? What effect does the Earth's orbital motion have on what we see? Will you still observe retrograde motion of Mars?
 

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