Would you be able to add to this list of known objects

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The discussion revolves around the identification and classification of distinct mathematical objects. Participants are exploring a list of such objects and seeking to expand or correct it, while also considering the implications of language and ambiguity in mathematical terminology.

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  • One participant presents an initial list of mathematical objects, questioning its validity and inviting additions or corrections.
  • Another participant suggests adding a Boolean value (true or false) to the list of mathematical objects.
  • A participant notes that the list could be significantly extended and highlights the role of language in potentially causing confusion regarding mathematical terms.
  • There is mention of the need for clarity in definitions to avoid ambiguity in mathematical concepts.
  • A later reply expresses a personal preference for including the term "Nilradical" as a notable mathematical concept that is missing from the list.
  • One participant reflects on the burdensome nature of terminology in general, sharing a personal anecdote unrelated to the mathematical objects discussed.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the completeness of the list of mathematical objects, and multiple competing views on what should be included remain. The discussion reflects a variety of perspectives on the importance of clarity and the influence of language.

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Participants express uncertainty about the completeness of the list and the definitions of terms, indicating that ambiguity may arise from both language and context. The discussion does not resolve these issues.

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So I was reading a book that warned me about mathematical objects and how they can be confused and muddled up for something else while being an entirely different thing..So, As far as I know these are distinct mathematical objects (which I think I know).

Is it a valid list and what are some that you may be able to add or correct?

1. Point.
2. Line.
3. Geometrical Shape
4. Proposition
5. Axiom,
6.Number
7.Set.
8. Element
9. Vector
10. Matrix
11. Function
12. Derivative (?)
13. Integral (?)
 
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A Boolean value (true or false).
 
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Bipolar Demon said:
So I was reading a book that warned me about mathematical objects and how they can be confused and muddled up for something else while being an entirely different thing..So, As far as I know these are distinct mathematical objects (which I think I know).

Is it a valid list and what are some that you may be able to add or correct?

1. Point.
2. Line.
3. Geometrical Shape
4. Proposition
5. Axiom,
6.Number
7.Set.
8. Element
9. Vector
10. Matrix
11. Function
12. Derivative (?)
13. Integral (?)

This list could probably be extended by at least some dozens of terms. The same is true for physics and likely many other sciences.
In addition it might depend on the language: something confusing in one language doesn't have to be confusing in another. E.g. integral domain is "integrity domain" in mine. That's why all used scientific terms are defined, before being used. Ordinary language is simply more restrictive than the range of scientific objects are, in the sense that it is ambiguous. This is already true by the normal usage without referring to science.
 
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mfb said:
List of some mathematical concepts

Usually, if there is some ambiguity things should be explained sufficiently to make clear what is meant.
My favorite one is missing :frown: Nilradical
 
Sometimes those words can be a burden: Just deleted a SPAM mail starting with "Save a bundle ..." and I was automatically thinking, why should I want to save a bundle ...
 

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