Yemen's Unraveling: US Surprised by Collapse of Govt

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the unexpected collapse of the Yemeni government and the implications of this event for regional stability and U.S. foreign policy. Participants explore the context of Yemen's political situation, the role of various factions, and the reactions of international actors.

Discussion Character

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express surprise at the U.S. government's reaction to Yemen's collapse, suggesting that the situation had been deteriorating for some time.
  • Nick Rasmussen's comparison of Yemen's situation to Iraq's collapse under Islamic State advances is noted, with some participants questioning the effectiveness of U.S. intelligence and policy assessments.
  • There is a discussion about the implications for Al Qaeda, with differing views on whether they would benefit from the situation given the sectarian differences between the Shiite Houthis and Sunni Al Qaeda.
  • Concerns are raised about the broader implications for stability in the Middle East and comparisons to Africa's political landscape.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that the U.S. response was unexpected, but there is disagreement regarding the implications for Al Qaeda and the overall stability of the region. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the effectiveness of U.S. intelligence and policy in predicting such outcomes.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about the political dynamics in Yemen and the sectarian affiliations of various groups are not fully explored, leaving room for further analysis of the situation.

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I was listening to a discuss about Yemen, and it's unraveling is probably worthy of its own thread.

US official: US was surprised by collapse of Yemen govt
http://news.yahoo.com/us-official-us-surprised-collapse-yemen-govt-205612576.html

Western nations and Saudi Arabia are pulling out.

Nick Rasmussen, who directs the National Counterterrorism Center, told the Senate intelligence committee that Yemen's American-funded army failed to oppose advancing Houthi rebels in the same way the U.S.-supported Iraqi military refused to fight Islamic State militants last year.

What happened in Iraq with the onslaught of the Islamic State group "happened in Yemen" on "a somewhat smaller scale," he said. "As the Houthi advances toward Sanaa took place ... they weren't opposed in many places. ...The situation deteriorated far more rapidly than we expected."
Apparently the Shiite Houthis are aligned with Iran.
 
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I'm surprised the U.S. was surprised. The county has been on the brink of state failure for awhile. Al Qaeda must be over joyed. The Middle East is truly in crisis. Making Africa look stable is not a good achievement.
 
Astronuc said:
US official: US was surprised by collapse of Yemen govt
Greg Bernhardt said:
I'm surprised the U.S. was surprised.
At what level are people surprised? Collection and analysis of data? Or, "interpretation and assessment" for "decisions and policy?"
 
Greg Bernhardt said:
I'm surprised the U.S. was surprised. The county has been on the brink of state failure for awhile. Al Qaeda must be over joyed. The Middle East is truly in crisis. Making Africa look stable is not a good achievement.
Im not sure how happy Al Qeada is, these rebels are shiite, while Al Qeada is sunni. Seems more like one of their enemies just got replaced by another enemy.
 

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