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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the challenges and strategies for a second-year physics student pursuing a double major in mathematics, specifically regarding admission into graduate programs in theoretical physics. Participants explore the importance of academic performance, research experience, and recommendations in the context of competition for graduate school placements.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses concern about competition for graduate school in theoretical physics, noting a perceived decrease in demand for students in this field.
  • Another participant suggests that the student should seek advice from teachers and academic advisors within their physics department.
  • A participant questions the use of the term "settle" regarding a shift from theoretical to experimental physics, implying a potential undervaluation of experimental work.
  • It is noted that "theoretical physics" encompasses a broad range of fields, each with both theoretical and experimental components.
  • One participant shares their experience of having settled for an experimental research opportunity while producing significant theoretical work, highlighting the fluidity between the two areas.
  • A contribution emphasizes the importance of rigorous coursework, strong letters of recommendation, and undergraduate research accomplishments for admission into good theoretical physics programs, while also mentioning the variability in admissions criteria from year to year.
  • There is a discussion about the prevalence of undergraduates engaging in experimental research, attributed to a lack of prerequisite courses for theoretical research rather than a notion of ease.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the significance of settling for experimental physics versus pursuing theoretical physics, and there is no consensus on the best strategies for improving chances of admission into graduate programs.

Contextual Notes

Some limitations include the variability in admissions criteria from year to year and the dependence on individual circumstances, such as the specific fields of interest within theoretical physics.

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I apologize for perhaps seeming redundant with my post. Please forgive me, I'm looking for more specific advice orientated towards my situation.

First and foremost, I am a second year student studying physics. Currently, I am also pursuing a double major in mathematics. To me it's either theory or bust (and by bust I mean going to grad school to study math, haha). I've worked extremely hard in these past 2 years and, thankfully, I've aced every physics and math course I've taken so far (except for a pesky A- in applied Calculus 3).

I am worried about the competition getting into grad school. I've heard that the demand for students in theoretical physics has gone down and thus I'm competing with a lot more student for a spot in a reputable university. My plan is to maintain my GPA of ~3.75 and continue my focus on acing all my future physics/math classes. In order to graduate with an honors distinction I am going to need to go into research. I have not looked into it yet, but I am planning on getting into a research program for my entire junior year. Hopefully I will be able to find a good position for research in theoretical physics but if that is not the case then I will settle for a role in experimental physics.

Assuming that all of this is done, what do you think my chances are of getting into a good school as a theoretical physics student? What should I do to improve my chances? Is there anything I should focus on?
 
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Honestly, I think it's better to ask your teachers and your academic advisors within your school's physics department.
 
talrefae said:
then I will settle for a role in experimental physics.

Settle?
 
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talrefae said:
it's either theory or bust
Which field(s)? As I hope you know by now, "theoretical physics" is very broad. Practically all branches of physics have experimental and theoretical sides.
 
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To get into a good theoretical physics program, you need to have done well in rigorous courses, have outstanding letters of recommendation (I actually think this is the most important), and have shown you have potential to do good research based on your research accomplishments in undergrad (doesn't have to be in theory, for example I know some high energy theorists who did experiment in undergrad). You should also try to get a very high PGRE score, although this is not as important as the other things.

It's really not that mysterious of a process, the only unknowns are how you compare to others and time (what they are looking for that year). For example, they may have overadmitted in AMO theory one year so they may admit very few the next or vice versa.

The reason more undergrads do research in experiment is because they have not yet taken the courses that would help give them the tools to do research in theory, not because experiment is any easier. In the beginning one can be useful with hardware even if they may not understand the whole picture. But if you actually want to do something impressive then you have to really know what is going on.
 

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