You could get to the speed of light. If you could synthesise gravity

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the theoretical possibility of synthesizing gravity to achieve or exceed the speed of light. Participants explore concepts related to gravitational distortion, propulsion methods, and the implications of existing gravitational theories.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that projecting a gravitational distortion could allow a vehicle to accelerate continuously, potentially reaching or exceeding the speed of light, contingent on the feasibility of synthesizing gravitons.
  • Others argue that in the real universe, gravitational fields are caused by mass, and momentum is conserved, implying that using gravity to pull an object would require more energy than direct propulsion.
  • A participant references the Alcubierre drive as a related concept, suggesting it may provide interesting insights into the discussion.
  • One participant clarifies their idea of using multiple "gravity generators" to create a gravitational field that attracts a ship, while questioning whether existing gravity could be redirected if synthesis is not possible.
  • Another participant reflects on the complexity of interstellar travel and the potential for alternative propulsion methods, expressing surprise at the extensive research already conducted on the topic.
  • Concerns are raised about the Biefield Brown effect and its applicability in a vacuum, suggesting that while ionized wind may account for certain effects, the possibility of redirecting gravity waves remains open for discussion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views, with some agreeing on the theoretical aspects of gravitational manipulation while others contest the feasibility of such concepts based on current understanding of physics. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing views present.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge limitations in understanding gravity and the assumptions underlying their proposals, particularly regarding the synthesis of gravitons and the mechanics of gravitational fields.

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If you could project a gravitational distortion from a vehicle in the direction you wanted to go. Then being pulled by the distortion,you would theoretically accelerate continuosly until you shut the distortion off. Either reaching the speed of light or actually breaking it,that is if its possible to break the speed of light.
Of course since we really don't know how gravity really works other than it just does, but if it does work by gravitons then it would seem feasible that these particles could be synthesised.
Also as a side note I did come up with this if somebody else has already said this, I'm sorry and I did search for it on this forum.
 
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sshort75 said:
If you could project a gravitational distortion from a vehicle in the direction you wanted to go. Then being pulled by the distortion,you would theoretically accelerate continuosly until you shut the distortion off. Either reaching the speed of light or actually breaking it,that is if its possible to break the speed of light.
Of course since we really don't know how gravity really works other than it just does, but if it does work by gravitons then it would seem feasible that these particles could be synthesised.
Also as a side note I did come up with this if somebody else has already said this, I'm sorry and I did search for it on this forum.

That's the stuff of science fiction.

In the real universe, a gravitational field is always caused by a mass and momentum is locally conserved. That means that if you had some means of pulling something along using gravity, you'd need more energy to push the gravitational source along than you'd need to pull that something directly, and you'd need some conventional method of propulsion to do the pulling.

Even if you use gravity to pull something, you can't pull it "faster than light", merely closer to the speed of light.
 
Thankyou for the replies, I was just thinking and appreciate the correction. Also thankyou for the link. There is one point where I was misunderstood or didn't explain myself well enough. When I said projected I meant let's say you had, hypothetically of course, 3 of these "gravity generators" that were all pointed at a single spot and the reaction of whatever their emitting at this point caused a gravitational field so there would be no force holding the ship from the field and the field attracts the ship however in doing so this would also move the field not because it is being pushed but because the point, where the reaction of my hypothetical generators beams or waves or whatever, has changed. Also in staying with Jonathon Scott said about Mass and momentum causing gravity, does that leave the chance, if it couldn't be synthesised, Is there anything to say that existing gravity can't be redirected?
 
Wow your link gave me a lot of different links to look at. I just came up with this because I was pondering the question while I was laid up with a leg injury, I had no idea people and lot better minds were looking into this sort of thing for over 50 years. I just thought if we were really going to travel to the stars that we probably wouldn't be able to use propulsion and we needed to think of something else. This gravity thing was the best I could come up with. I also figure that the princinple for interstellar travel probably isn't that complex, although the nuts and bolts and mechanics of making it happen might be. Also if hypothetically we have been visited by UFO's and any of the accounts are accurate these things would blow holes in the Earth when they take off so taking that into account I came up with this theory.
I did read the whole article but I did more reading on other sources, and I did read another source that said the Biefield Brown effect didn't work in a vaccum. That it was the ionized wind that accounted for effect but that doesn't mean that gravity waves can't be redirected.
 

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