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| Feb7-08, 05:46 PM | #1 |
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Allergic reaction question
Is it true that you can only have an allergic reaction to something AFTER the initial exposure?
For example, the very first time you get exposed to something you could be allergic to, it will do nothing? |
| Feb7-08, 10:32 PM | #2 |
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| Feb8-08, 05:58 AM | #3 |
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Tus is right, it can be the first time, or the 100th time.
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| Feb8-08, 02:51 PM | #4 |
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Allergic reaction question
Usually, a first exposure doesn't induce a reaction, or it's only a very mild reaction. A full blown allergic reaction requires a previous exposure. In Tsu's example, one cannot rule out the individual ingredients. For example, x-ray dyes contain commonly used preservatives. Someone may have developed a sensitivity due to previous exposure to the preservative, for example in their cosmetics or detergents.
The sensitizing agent may not need to be the exact one that someone reacts to either. For example, if someone is allergic to one antibiotic, it is likely they will be allergic to others in the same class. |
| Feb8-08, 06:11 PM | #5 |
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I myself, was stung by a hornet when I was 8, and went into a anaphylactoid reaction, An anaphylactoid reaction produces a very similar clinical syndrome but is not immune-mediated. Anaphylactoid and Anaphylaxis are both treated the same way.
Some drugs and foods ( morphine,shellfish) may cause an anaphylactoid reaction on the first exposure. I would think for the majority of the population, it is the act of being sensitized a few times before a allergic reaction occurs. But if either signs of anaphylactoid and anaphylaxis become known, seek help at once. A small study from American Academy of Pediatrics http://pediatrics.aappublications.or.../full/102/1/e6 Initial reactions usually occurred at home (median age, 24 months for PeaNut and 62 months for Tree, nut) and were considered to result from a first exposure in 72% of cases. |
| Feb8-08, 07:22 PM | #6 |
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http://www.postgradmed.com/issues/20...02/rusznak.htm Hmm...this one mentions radiologic contrast dyes too...and some contraindications for their use; Tsu, if you weren't already aware of these, it might be worth looking into further. http://www.hon.ch/Library/Theme/Alle..._reaction.html |
| Feb8-08, 08:12 PM | #7 |
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Thanks MB!!
Yes, we are all VERY aware of the contraindications for contrast media injections. I just HATE it when my patients try to code out on me!! Actually the crustacean/mussels part is no longer valid. That used to be a red flag when we used the ionic contrasts, but these days it's a moot point. We are more concerned now with renal function and other underlying diseases; diabetes, heart problems (on beta-blockers - as the article mentioned), multiple myeloma... We have a HUGE list of things on our questionaires.
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| Feb8-08, 08:51 PM | #8 |
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![]() Oh, and I didn't catch before...hypatia said that anaphylactoid reactions are NOT immune-mediated. They are, but are not allergic reactions...i.e., they are not IgE mediated...at least that seems to be the distinction from what I've gathered in some quick reading, such as from the links above. I had come across some assorted other case reports where they were calling such reactions anaphylactic reactions upon first exposures to some drugs, but within the description of the follow-up testing, those patients did not have any IgE response (which had me baffled until hypatia mentioned the anaphylactoid reactions and I dug into them), so it seems to be a commonly confused term, even within the literature and among medical practitioners. I guess in a clinical setting, since both respond to the same treatment, the nuances of mechanism aren't important, though to an allergist they might be. |
| Feb8-08, 10:10 PM | #9 |
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http://www.anaesthesiajournal.co.uk/...0152X/abstract 3}Anaphylactoid reactions occur through a direct nonimmune-mediated release of mediators from mast cells and/or basophils or result from direct complement activation, but they present with clinical symptoms similar to those of anaphylaxis. |
| Feb8-08, 10:33 PM | #10 |
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![]() http://www.merck.com/mmhe/sec16/ch185/ch185e.html |
| Feb8-08, 11:06 PM | #11 |
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and There are some articles by other authors that support this too, basically distinguishing anaphylactic from anaphylactoid by the presence or absence of IgE involvement, but I'm not sure what I can quote of them (they have further restrictions than the usual journals in our library subscription). |
| Feb9-08, 12:17 AM | #12 |
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opps posted in wrong thread!
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