Factorization of a matrix equation

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The discussion revolves around the factorization of the matrix equation ##A\vec{x} - 7\vec{x} = \vec{0}##, specifically addressing the correct interpretation of the factorization as ##(A - 7I)\vec{x} = \vec{0}## versus ##(A - 7)\vec{x} = \vec{0}##. Participants explore the implications of treating the scalar 7 as either a scalar or as a matrix operator, discussing the notation and its validity within linear algebra.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that the correct factorization should include the identity matrix, thus writing it as ##(A - 7I)\vec{x} = \vec{0}##, to avoid ambiguity in interpretation.
  • Others acknowledge that the notation ##(A - 7)\vec{x} = \vec{0}## is sometimes used informally, interpreting the scalar 7 as an operator that scales the vector space.
  • A participant questions the validity of factoring out the vector when combining a matrix and a scalar, suggesting that it leads to confusion about whether one is subtracting a scalar from a matrix.
  • Another participant emphasizes that the factorization is only valid if 7 is interpreted as a linear operator, reinforcing the necessity of using ##7I## in the expression.
  • Concerns are raised about the ambiguity of interpreting 7 as either a scalar or a matrix, with some participants noting that this can lead to misunderstandings.
  • It is mentioned that linear algebra texts typically present the factorization explicitly as ##(A - 7I)x## to clarify the distinction between scalars and matrices.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the need for clarity in notation and the interpretation of 7, but there is disagreement on the acceptability of the informal notation ##(A - 7)\vec{x}##. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of using such notation.

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The discussion highlights limitations in notation and interpretation, particularly regarding the treatment of scalars versus matrices in linear algebra. There is an unresolved tension between formal and informal usage of mathematical expressions.

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This might be a dumb question, but I am wondering, given the equation ##A\vec{x} - 7\vec{x} = \vec{0}##, the factorization ##(A - 7I)\vec{x} = \vec{0}## is correct rather than the factorization ##(A - 7)\vec{x} = \vec{0}##. It seems that I can discribute just fine to get the equation we had before using the second ##(A - 7)\vec{x} = \vec{0}##, so I'm not sure why I would think to do ##(A - 7)\vec{x} = \vec{0}## rather than ##(A - 7I)\vec{x} = \vec{0}##.
 
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Yes you are right that that is the strictly correct way to write it. However the slight abuse of notation ##(A-7)\vec x## is sometimes used, because it is shorter to write and it is usually clear what it means. In that case the symbol 7 is interpreted to mean the operator on the vector space ##V## that maps ##\vec v## to ##7\vec v##.
 
andrewkirk said:
Yes you are right that that is the strictly correct way to write it. However the slight abuse of notation ##(A-7)\vec x## is sometimes used, because it is shorter to write and it is usually clear what it means. In that case the symbol 7 is interpreted to mean the operator on the vector space ##V## that maps ##\vec v## to ##7\vec v##.
Actually, a better question that I might ask would be that since in ##A\vec{x} - 7\vec{x} = \vec{0}## we have a matrix times and vector and then a scalar times a vector, what allows us to be able to factor out the vector? Wouldn't we get a matrix minus a scalar?
 
No, because there is no rule that allows us to do that factorisation. It can only be factorised if we interpret the 7 as a linear operator, meaning it is ##7I##.
 
Mr Davis 97 said:
Actually, a better question that I might ask would be that since in ##A\vec{x} - 7\vec{x} = \vec{0}## we have a matrix times and vector and then a scalar times a vector, what allows us to be able to factor out the vector? Wouldn't we get a matrix minus a scalar?
Which is why you need to append I in the factorization.
In the expression ##A\vec{x} - 7\vec{x}## Ax is a vector and 7x is a vector, but if you factor the left side to (A - 7), then you're subtracting a scalar from a matrix. As you note, this doesn't make sense unless we stretch things to interpret 7 in the way that andrewkirk mentions. In this case 7 is really 7I.
 
Why are we allowed to interpret 7 as either a scalar 7 or a matrix 7I? It seems somewhat ambiguous
 
Mr Davis 97 said:
Why are we allowed to interpret 7 as either a scalar 7 or a matrix 7I? It seems somewhat ambiguous
As andrewkirk said in post #2, this is an abuse of notation, but when it is used, the context usually makes it clear what is intended.

However, every linear algebra book I've seen will write the factorization of Ax - 7x (for example) as (A - 7I)x, to show explicitly that we're not subtracting a scalar from a matrix.
 

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