New Findings about the Evolution of Complex Cellular Life

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The discussion centers on the evolution of complex cellular life, specifically the emergence of eukaryotes from prokaryotic organisms. It explores recent findings regarding the Asgard superphylum of archaea and its implications for understanding eukaryotic cellular complexity, as well as historical perspectives on the endosymbiotic theory.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants discuss the endosymbiotic theory, highlighting the role of an archaeal host and a bacterial endosymbiont in the evolution of eukaryotes.
  • Others mention the discovery of the Asgard superphylum and its potential significance in understanding the origins of eukaryotic complexity.
  • A participant draws a parallel between the Asgard findings and the Denisovans, emphasizing the importance of unseen organisms in evolutionary history.
  • There is a mention of Lynn Margulis and her contributions to the endosymbiotic theory, with differing views on whether she lived to see her ideas gain acceptance.
  • Some participants express that evidence supporting Margulis's proposals existed prior to recent findings, suggesting a historical context of contention within evolutionary biology.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of enthusiasm for the new findings and differing opinions on the historical acceptance of Margulis's theories. There is no clear consensus on the timeline of acceptance for her ideas or the extent of evidence available before recent discoveries.

Contextual Notes

Some statements reflect a dependence on interpretations of historical scientific discourse and the evolving nature of scientific consensus regarding evolutionary biology. There are unresolved questions about the implications of the Asgard superphylum for the understanding of eukaryotic origins.

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Humans, other animals, plants, fungi and almost all other forms of complex, multi-cellular life are known as eukaryotes. How eukaryotes evolved from simpler prokaryotic organisms is a major question in evolutionary biology. The current view is that eukaryotes evolved from the fusion between a bacterium (which would eventually become the mitochondrion) and an archaeal host through a process called endosymbiosis. Until recently, the identity of the archaeal host had been mysterious. In 2015, a group of researchers led by Thijs Ettema and Lionel Guy in Sweden discovered lokiarchaeota, a phylum of archaea that shares many features with eukaryotes and was likely a close relative of the archaon that evolved into eukaryotes. Today, in the journal Nature, Ettema and co-workers report on the discovery of a larger superphylum of archaea related to lokiarchaeota, which sheds more light on the evolution of eukaryotes:
Abstract:The origin and cellular complexity of eukaryotes represent a major enigma in biology. Current data support scenarios in which an archaeal host cell and an alphaproteobacterial (mitochondrial) endosymbiont merged together, resulting in the first eukaryotic cell. The host cell is related to Lokiarchaeota, an archaeal phylum with many eukaryotic features. The emergence of the structural complexity that characterizes eukaryotic cells remains unclear. Here we describe the ‘Asgard’ superphylum, a group of uncultivated archaea that, as well as Lokiarchaeota, includes Thor-, Odin- and Heimdallarchaeota. Asgard archaea affiliate with eukaryotes in phylogenomic analyses, and their genomes are enriched for proteins formerly considered specific to eukaryotes. Notably, thorarchaeal genomes encode several homologues of eukaryotic membrane-trafficking machinery components, including Sec23/24 and TRAPP domains. Furthermore, we identify thorarchaeal proteins with similar features to eukaryotic coat proteins involved in vesicle biogenesis. Our results expand the known repertoire of ‘eukaryote-specific’ proteins in Archaea, indicating that the archaeal host cell already contained many key components that govern eukaryotic cellular complexity.

Zaremba-Niedzwiedzka et al. 2017. Asgard archaea illuminate the origin of eukaryotic cellular complexity. Nature. Published online 11 January 2017. doi:10.1038/nature21031[/PLAIN]

Popular press summary: https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2017/01/our-origins-in-asgard/512645/
Thanks to a team of scientists led by http://www.ettemalab.org/thijs-ettema/, Asgard is now also the name of a large clan of microbes. Its members, which are named after Norse gods like Odin, Thor, Loki, and Heimdall, are found all over the world. Many of them are rare and no one has actually seen them under a microscope. But thanks to their DNA, we know they exist. And we know that they are singularly important to us, because they may well be the group from which we evolved.

http://nature.com/articles/doi:10.1038/nature21031 , then around two billion years ago, an Asgardian microbe (or an incredibly close relative) took part in a unique event that gave rise to the eukaryotes. That’s the group which includes humans, our fellow animals, plants, fungi, and every living thing made from large, complex cells—all the living things we’re most familiar with, and all the ones we can actually see. Our origins lie either in Asgard, or next door to it.
 
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Very cool!
I like the Asgard motif.

I also like that the unseen thing is important.
Kind of like the Denisovans. Similar to the Neanderthals but known only from DNA from a small finger bone (no whole fossils).
 
@DrClaude - the nature article is behind a paywall.

This is a really interesting finding. Thanks. It also hints strongly at why we had not seen the link before.
 
It is a real shame that Lynn Margullis has not lived long enough to see her bold proposal finally vindicated.
 
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Carlos L. Janer said:
It is a real shame that Lynn Margullis has not lived long enough to see her bold proposal finally vindicated.

I think there was plenty of evidence before this to support her proposal. I would say she lived long enough to see her proposal become the main contender, and to the point where it is discussed in textbooks, eg. https://openstax.org/details/books/biology.
 
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atyy said:
I think there was plenty of evidence before this to support her proposal. I would say she lived long enough to see her proposal become the main contender, and to the point where it is discussed in textbooks, eg. https://openstax.org/details/books/biology.

You may be right. The orthodox neodarwinism was the only contender in my generation and it did not allow for any deviation from it. People like Margullis and Gould were deemed as anathema for the comunity.
 
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