Law of the lever without (infinitesimal) displacements

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The discussion explores the possibility of deriving the law of the lever without referencing displacements, including infinitesimal or virtual ones. It highlights that traditional derivations rely on work equations, which are defined through displacements. Participants suggest that a static analysis using torque or modeling the lever as a truss could provide an alternative approach. The conversation emphasizes the need for a derivation method that remains independent of energy conservation principles. Ultimately, the feasibility of such a derivation remains a central question.
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Usually the law of the lever or similar force laws for simple machines are derived using
$$W_1=F_1\cdot s_1=F_2\cdot s_2=W_2\enspace,$$
sometimes called "Golden Rule of Mechanics". However, these force laws also hold in the static case where no work is done. Is it possible to derive the law of the lever without using any displacements, not even infinitesimal or virtual ones? As far as I can see, such a derivation would have to be independent of conservation of energy, as mechanical work is defined in terms of displacements.
 
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For a static scenario you could easily derive it from torque
 
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Let's take a block and tackle system then.
 
greypilgrim said:
Let's take a block and tackle system then.
Take it where? What are you asking?
 
greypilgrim said:
Let's take a block and tackle system then.
Do a free body diagram at each pulley assuming uniform tension.
 
greypilgrim said:
Is it possible to derive the law of the lever without using any displacements, not even infinitesimal or virtual ones?
You can model the lever as a 3 node truss (triangle as the simplest rigid structure) to derive the static equilibrium, without any mention of work or torque.
 
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