How Is the Force on a Child in a Roller Coaster Calculated?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the force exerted by a roller coaster seat on a child at a specific point in a loop. The problem involves a child with a given mass in a roller coaster traveling through a loop of defined radius, with specific speeds at two points in the loop.

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  • Participants discuss the application of centripetal force equations and the effects of gravity on the child in the roller coaster. There are attempts to calculate the force at point B using the centripetal force formula and questions about the direction of the centripetal force.

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Some participants have shared their calculations and expressed confusion regarding the correctness of their equations. There is a recognition of the need to clarify the direction of forces involved and whether there is a net force acting on the child at point B. Guidance is being sought on the proper application of concepts.

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Participants are working under the assumption that the child is not secured in the seat, which may influence the dynamics of the forces at play. There is also a mention of the angle involved in the force calculations, which may indicate a need for further exploration of the geometry of the situation.

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Homework Statement

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A child of mass 40.0 kg is in a roller coaster car that travels in a loop of radius 7.30 m. At point A the speed of the car is 15.0 m/s, and at point B, the speed is 15.6 m/s. Assume the child is not holding on and does not wear a seat belt.

What is the force (in N) of the car seat on the child at point B? (Enter the magnitude.)

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Homework Equations


Fc = [(mv^2)/r]
Fc = ma

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I solved (a) and (c).
I solved (a) by inserting the mass, speed, and radius into the equation [(mv^2)/r] and subtracting by (mass*gravity).
My equation for (b) was [(mv^2)/r * cos30] - mg = [(40*(15.6^2)/7.3*cos30) - (40*9.8) = 762.8 N. That was incorrect. What's improper about my equation? [/B]
 

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Austin Gibson said:

Homework Statement

:[/B]
A child of mass 40.0 kg is in a roller coaster car that travels in a loop of radius 7.30 m. At point A the speed of the car is 15.0 m/s, and at point B, the speed is 15.6 m/s. Assume the child is not holding on and does not wear a seat belt.

What is the force (in N) of the car seat on the child at point B? (Enter the magnitude.)

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Homework Equations


Fc = [(mv^2)/r]
Fc = ma

The Attempt at a Solution

:[/B]

I solved (a) and (c).
I solved (a) by inserting the mass, speed, and radius into the equation [(mv^2)/r] and subtracting by (mass*gravity).
My equation for (b) was [(mv^2)/r * cos30] - mg = [(40*(15.6^2)/7.3*cos30) - (40*9.8) = 762.8 N. That was incorrect. What's improper about my equation? [/B]
In what direction is the centripetal force at point B ?

Also, is there any net force on the child at point B ?
 
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SammyS said:
In what direction is the centripetal force at point B ?
120 degrees(90+30)?
 
I solved it by applying (cos 30) to mg instead of the centripetal force.
 

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