Definite integral involving rational function and đťś‹

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The discussion revolves around solving a definite integral involving a rational function and the constant đťś‹. Participants are exploring integration techniques applicable to this problem.

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  • Participants discuss the use of u-substitution as a potential technique, with one member suggesting that it could simplify the integration process. There is also mention of applying integration by partial fractions, with some questioning the order in which these techniques should be applied.

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Several participants have contributed thoughts on the integration techniques, with some suggesting that the u-substitution may be the simpler approach to start with. However, there is no explicit consensus on the best method to proceed.

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I have tried to solve this integration but i can't, can somebody figure out a way to do this..
 
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##u=x^2+\pi +1##
 
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Typically , for these types of problem. A good technqie to think about is u-substitution and let u be the more complicated function.
 
ahilan said:
I have tried to solve this integration but i can't, can somebody figure out a way to do this..
Two techniques should be applied in this case. The first one is the substitution as proposed in post #2, and the second one is the integration by partial fractions. The order in which techniques should be used first is irrelevant. If the integration by partial fractions is used first, there will be the next equation. $$ \int_{0}^{\sqrt{\pi-1}}\frac{16\pi^2x^3}{(x^2+\pi+1)^3}dx=\int_{0}^{\sqrt{\pi-1}}\frac{16\pi^2x}{(x^2+\pi+1)^2}dx-\int_{0}^{\sqrt{\pi-1}}\frac{16\pi^3x}{(x^2+\pi+1)^3}dx-\int_{0}^{\sqrt{\pi-1}}\frac{16\pi^2x}{(x^2+\pi+1)^3}dx $$
 
Gavran said:
Two techniques should be applied in this case. The first one is the substitution as proposed in post #2, and the second one is the integration by partial fractions.
After the proposed u-substitution, the partial fractions step is trivial. In any case, it must be much simpler to do the u-substitution first.
 

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