What Graphs Show Time Dilation for a Twin Traveling at Light Speed?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of time dilation as it relates to a twin traveling at relativistic speeds, specifically near the speed of light. Participants explore the implications of time dilation graphs and the mathematical relationships involved, seeking clarification on how these concepts apply to the twin paradox scenario.

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  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants inquire about graphs that depict time dilation as a function of velocity, suggesting a search for "time dilation graph" for visual examples.
  • One participant presents a formula yielding specific time dilation factors for various fractions of the speed of light, questioning whether these factors indicate how much longer the traveling twin appears to take for a round trip compared to the home twin.
  • Another participant clarifies that the formula refers to the elongation of time between ticks of the traveling twin's clock in the Earth twin's frame, rather than the actual travel time.
  • A participant introduces a graph that shows the relative aging of the traveling twin compared to the stay-at-home twin, noting its relationship to previously mentioned graphs.
  • One participant emphasizes the importance of understanding all-inertial scenarios before tackling the complexities of the classic twins scenario, suggesting a focus on simpler cases first.
  • Another participant notes that time dilation increases exponentially as an object approaches the speed of light, suggesting that educational texts should illustrate this behavior.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying levels of understanding regarding the implications of time dilation and the interpretation of graphs. There is no consensus on the interpretation of the results or the best approach to understanding the twin paradox scenario, indicating ongoing debate and exploration of the topic.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express confusion about the relationship between time dilation factors and perceived travel times, highlighting the complexity of the topic and the need for careful consideration of the underlying physics.

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Are there any graphs that depict the amount of time dilation that occurs by the fraction of the speed of light for the traveling twin?
 
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You mean, time dilation factor on one axis and velocity on the other? If so just enter "time dilation graph" into a google image search, you'll various examples such as this one.
 
Thanks for that Jesse.
 
I'm not sure what the graph results mean.
The formula give the results of:
0.866c -> 2
0.9428c -> 3
0.9682c -> 4
0.9798c -> 5
etc
Does this mean that the traveling twin will appear to the home twin to take twice as long to travel to and back from their destination when they travel at 0.866c, three times as long when they travel at 0.9428c, four times as long at 0.9682c, etc.?
Can someone please clarify if this is what is meant or something else?
 
gonegahgah said:
I'm not sure what the graph results mean.
The formula give the results of:
0.866c -> 2
0.9428c -> 3
0.9682c -> 4
0.9798c -> 5
etc
Does this mean that the traveling twin will appear to the home twin to take twice as long to travel to and back from their destination when they travel at 0.866c, three times as long when they travel at 0.9428c, four times as long at 0.9682c, etc.?
Can someone please clarify if this is what is meant or something else?
No, the formula doesn't refer to travel time, it refers to how much the time between ticks of the traveling twin's clock are elongated (dilated) in the Earth twin's frame. For example, if the traveling twin is moving at 0.866c in the Earth's frame, then it takes 2 seconds of time in this frame for the traveling twin's clock to tick forward by 1 second. You can also take the inverse of these numbers to see how much less the traveling twin will have aged in total between leaving Earth and returning, assuming he travels at uniform speed; for example if the traveling twin travels away and back at 0.866c, then if the Earth twin has aged N years during that time, the traveling twin has only aged N/2 years upon return.

The actual travel time in the Earth's frame depends only on the velocity in the Earth's frame, for example if the traveling twin goes to a destination 5 light-years away and returns to Earth, traveling at 0.866c the whole time, the time of this journey in the Earth's frame is (5+5)/0.866 = 11.547 years (which means upon return, the Earth twin will be 11.547 years older while the traveling twin is only 5.7735 years older).
 
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Just in case you were asking for the relative age of the traveling twin compared to the stay-at-home twin, here is a graph that depicts that:
AgeVSspeed.PNG

If you complare this graph to the one that JesseM pointed you to, you will see that it is simply the reciprocal of the Y axis. You can also see that the shape of the graph is a simply quarter of a circle.
 
gonegahgah said:
Does this mean that the traveling twin will appear to the home twin to take twice as long to travel to and back from their destination when they travel at 0.866c, three times as long when they travel at 0.9428c, four times as long at 0.9682c, etc.?

gonegahgah,

The gamma factor at 0.866c is 2. This means that the traveling twin ages 1/gamma = 1/2 as much as the inertial twin over the very same interval. As JesseM pointed out, this is the same as saying that the traveling twin experiences a dilated (stretched) duration by a factor of gamma = 2, wrt the traveling twin's aging as the reference.

I recommend you forget the classic twins scenario, and instead focus on all-inertial scenarios first. In the case of the classic twins scenario, one twin (B) undergoes a proper acceleration, and the analysis of the scenario is much more complex. Master the easier all-inertial scenarios first, then go into the more complicated ones. It will save you a great amount of time in the end. Food for thought.

GrayGhost
 
It increases exponentially as the object travels closer to the speed of light. Most text that teach the theory should show it...
 
Thank you for that information. That explains it to me a lot better.
 

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