How Does Gauss' Law Apply to Spherical Charge Distributions?

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The discussion revolves around applying Gauss' Law to a problem involving a uniformly distributed charge within concentric spherical surfaces. The original poster seeks to determine the electric field at a specific distance from the center of these surfaces, given a charge of 2 pC distributed between two radii.

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  • Participants explore the relationship between the enclosed charge and the electric field, questioning the correct interpretation of the charge distribution and the application of Gauss' Law. There are attempts to derive the enclosed charge using different radii and volumes, with some participants suggesting clarifications on calculating the volume between spherical surfaces.

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There is ongoing exploration of the problem with various approaches being discussed. Some participants have provided guidance on calculating the enclosed charge and the volume between spheres, while others express confusion about their calculations and seek further clarification. No explicit consensus has been reached on the correct method or outcome.

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A charge of 2pC is uniformly distributed throughout the volume between concentric spherical surfaces having radii of 1.3 cm and 3.3 cm. What is the magnitude of the electric field 1.8 cm from the center of these surfaces? Answer in units of N/C.

I used the equation \Phi = E*4\pi r^2 and then the equation \Phi = q_e_n_c /E_0 and set them equal to each other. I used the formula q_e_n_c = charge/volume * volume to get Q/(4/3)\pi R^3 * (4/3)\pi r^3. Simplifying gave me Qr^3/E_0 R^3. Plugging this in for q_e_n_c and solving for the E field gave me ,
E= Qr/ E_0R^3*4\pi
Q= 2 x 10^-12 since the charge is uniform
r =.018 m
E_0 = 8.85 x 10^-12
R= .033
So 2 x 10^-12(.018)/8.85 x 10^-12 *(.033)^3 * 4pi = 9.02 N/C... which isn't right.
Can someone please help me? I have no idea what I'm doing. :confused:
 
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The electric field depends on the enclosed charge, and from the problem statement, it is the charge enclosed within the radius of 0.018 m, of the charge distribution between 0.013 m and 0.033 m. In other words, the charge enclosed in a shell of inner radius 0.013 m and outer radius 0.018 m.

2 x 10^-12(.018)/8.85 x 10^-12 *(.033)^3 * 4pi
implies the charge 2 pC distributed over the entire spherical volume of radius 0.033 m.

The 2 pC is distributed uniformly in a spherical shell 4/3\pi((0.033 m)3 - (0.013 m)3).

Then determine what charge is enclosed by the smaller spherical shell of inner radius 0.013 m and outer radius 0.018 m.
 
Ok.. I'm not sure if I am doing this right but...
q_e_n_c = 2 x 10^-12 * (.013)^3 / (.018)^3. Solving this would give me 7.53 x 10^-13 which is my Q. Then I plug this into my previous equation, Qr /E_0 R^3 4\pi
Where Q= 7.53 x 10^-13
r= .013
R = .018
Is this the right way to do it?
 
Think of how one finds the area between two circles, and by extension, the volume between two spherical surfaces.
 
Ok so to find the area between the 2 circles, I would used 4\piR^3 - 4\pi r^2 since they're spheres. Then I would multiply this answer by E for the equation for flux. I'm a little confused about the volume. Would I have Q/ (4/3)\pi (R^3 - r^3) * 4/3 \pi r^3 ? I understand that I need to find the difference in volume between the 2 spheres, but I'm a little unsure of where it would go. Thanks
 
Please be careful.

The area between two circles is simply the difference in areas,

A2 - A1 = \pi\,{r_2}^2\,-\,\pi\,{r_1}^2 = \pi\,({r_2}^2\,-\,{r_1}^2 ), with obviously r2 > r1

and then likewise, the volume between two spheres is simply the difference in volumes,

V2 - V1 = 4/3\,\pi\,{r_2}^3\,-\,4/3\,\pi\,{r_1}^3 = 4/3\,\pi\,({r_2}^3\,-\,{r_1}^3 ), again obviously with r2 > r1
 
I'm sorry, I typed my previous post wrong. Anyway, I tried starting over using the help you gave.
\Phi = E*A
\Phi= E * \pi (R^2 - r^2
where R= .018 and r= .013
So \Phi= 1.55 x 10^-4 \pi * E
Then \Phi= q_e_n_c / E_0
Q_e_n_c = charge/volume * volume
Q_e_n_c= 2 x 10^-12 / (4/3)\pi (.033^3 -.013^3) * (4/3)\pi (.018^3 -.013^3)
So Q_e_n_c = 2.16 x 10^-13
Then 1.55 x 10^-4 \pi *E = 2.16 x 10^-13/ 8.85 x 10^-12
Solving for E gave me 50.1.
Am I doing this right now?
 
Q_{enc}= 2 x 10^-12 / (4/3)\pi (.033^3 -.013^3) * (4/3)\pi (.018^3 -.013^3) is correct,

however, I would write it

Q\,\frac{0.018^3-0.013^3}{0.033^3-0.013^3}

in order to show clearly which is the numerator and which is the denominator. :smile:
 
Is the first part of my flux wrong? It doesn't matter how I write the charge, I'm still getting 50.1 as my answer and it's wrong. I don't know how it can we wrong now!
 
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Can someone please tell me what I'm doing wrong?
 

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