Weinberg shows support for 3+1 gravitational assymptotic safety

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The discussion revolves around Steven Weinberg's support for the concept of asymptotic safety in quantum gravity, particularly in the context of quantum field theory (QFT) and its potential revival. Participants explore the implications of Weinberg's statements, the significance of renormalizations, and the relationship between QFT and string theory.

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  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express enthusiasm for Weinberg's talk, noting the importance of renormalizations as redefinitions of fundamental constants.
  • One participant promotes a QFT reformulation that avoids corrections to fundamental constants, suggesting a revival of QFT is justified.
  • Another participant highlights the significance of a graph presented by Weinberg, which suggests a positive outlook for asymptotic safety in quantum gravity.
  • There is mention of a paper by Codello, Percacci, and Rahmede that discusses a critical hypersurface in a truncated model, which some participants find relevant to the discussion.
  • Some participants note Weinberg's excitement about the possibility that string theory may not be necessary, advocating for the relevance of traditional QFT.
  • A participant points out that Weinberg's support for asymptotic safety is complicated by his own skepticism about its likelihood, referencing his historical contributions to the concept.
  • There are reflections on the evolving nature of attitudes towards QFT and string theory, emphasizing that current trends should not dictate future understanding.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of enthusiasm and skepticism regarding Weinberg's views on asymptotic safety and its implications for QFT and string theory. There is no clear consensus on the likelihood or implications of these ideas, indicating ongoing debate.

Contextual Notes

Some discussions reference historical and sociological aspects of the development of asymptotic safety, as well as the evolving nature of theoretical physics, which may influence participants' interpretations and opinions.

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Nice!
 
Good talk! I like it.

The renormalizations play a crucial role, and I am content to hear him saying that they are just redefinitions of the fundamental constants. It is equivalent to discarding the divergent corrections to the right constants present in the original Lagrangian.

As I promote QFT reformulation where no corrections to the fundamental constants arise, the QFT revival looks even more justified.
 
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The link I found was this
http://cdsweb.cern.ch/record/1188567/
to the Cern document server.
It is the same site that has Carlo Rovelli's overview of LQG talk he gave to Strings 2008.
Great site!
I like the dotted line that curves up in the future, that his graph of the projected stock price of QFT. Good news for Martin Reuter, Roberto Percacci, asymptotic safe QG, if it turns out that way.

The paper he highlighted by Codello Percacci Rahmede was one we discussed. It is where they truncated down to 7 dimensions but found that the critical hypersurface was only 3D----only 3 parameters to fix, to get on the attractive hypersurface where the flow will bring you to the UV fixed point.
Several other A.S. papers he talked about were also ones we have flagged as interesting, ones by Bonanno Reuter Sauressig, Benedetti, in various combinations. All the A.S. names we know came out in Weinberg's talk.

It was the only part of the talk where he seemed to get really excited---the idea that string may not be necessary, may not be a part of nature, and that what is needed is "good old quantum field theory" as he put it.
Interesting ideas and, as he said, should be pursued. To get to this part of Weinberg's talk (which is 70 minutes long) you have to drag the button forward to 58 minutes.

The cds link I gave here gives you a somewhat larger screen and it is easy to fast forward to whatever time, like 58 minutes, that you want.
A fascinating and hopeful talk!

BTW Weinberg mentioned that in December 2009 there would be an Asymptotic Safe QG conference at Perimeter Institute. I'd wager dollars to donuts that Weinberg will be on hand for that.
 
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Dear Daniel MTd2, you seem to be confused about some very basic, even sociological and historical points. The reason why Weinberg "shows support" for asymptotic safety, even though he thinks it's unlikely, is that he invented it http://arxiv.org/abs/hep-th/9702027 & his text in General Relativity; an Einstein Centenary Survey.
 
http://www.math.columbia.edu/~woit/wordpress/?p=2199

"He ended with comments on the “asymptotic safety” approach to quantum gravity, noting that it is quite possible that string theory is not needed, that the world can just be described at a fundamental level by quantum field theory (and thus his conjecture that QFT may come back into fashion as a fundamental theory):

I don’t want to discourage string theorists, but there’s just the possibility that maybe that isn’t the way the world is, that the world is much more like we’ve always known, that is, the Standard Model and General Relativity."
 
MTd2 said:
http://www.math.columbia.edu/~woit/wordpress/?p=2199



"I don’t want to discourage string theorists, but there’s just the possibility that maybe that isn’t the way the world is, that the world is much more like we’ve always known, that is, the Standard Model and General Relativity."

Ah like poetry to my ears. Probably a bit optimistic but hey. I think the main point of this talk is that our attitude towords QFT in general should not be set in stone by current trends. It is a theory which we still do not yet fully undestand. String theory is also an important theory and our attitudes to it are also bound to change has we study it deeper and uncover new experimental data.
 

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