Explaining Time Dilation: A Simple Guide

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of time dilation as described by the theory of relativity, particularly focusing on the twin paradox scenario. Participants explore the implications of high-speed travel on aging and the nature of time from different frames of reference.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about why a person traveling at high speed ages slower compared to someone standing still, questioning the concept of a universal time frame.
  • Another participant explains that from the perspective of the traveling individual, their own time appears normal, while the stationary observer's time appears dilated.
  • A participant references the twin paradox, noting that the returning twin ages less due to the need to accelerate and change direction, which breaks the symmetry of their experiences.
  • Some participants emphasize that both twins perceive each other as aging slowly, but the resolution of their ages upon reunion is agreed upon across all frames of reference.
  • One participant points out that while there is no universal truth about velocity, there is agreement on aging when one twin accelerates and the other moves inertially.
  • Another participant raises a question about how one twin can age more than the other if there is no universal time frame, suggesting that the scenario becomes complex when considering only the two twins in isolation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of understanding and confusion regarding the implications of time dilation and the twin paradox. There is no consensus on the interpretation of these concepts, and multiple competing views remain regarding the nature of time and aging in different frames of reference.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of acceleration in the twin paradox and the distinction between inertial and non-inertial frames. There are unresolved questions about the implications of relative motion and the nature of time itself.

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I know this has been asked tons of times on here. But I never seem to understand the answers. So I challenge all you smart people to explain it as simple as possible. How does time slow down for a person who is traveling at a hihg speed and not for someone standing still? The person standing still is still moving around the solor system, that is traveling around the solor system. There is no universal time frame. So if someone is traveling very fast away from me why would he age slower and not me, how could time now who is traveling and who is not. Please make the answer as easy as possible.
 
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If someone is traveling very fast away from you, that other person will appear to you to be aging slowly. From the perspective of that other person, her watch is working just fine, thank you, but yours is not. From her perspective, it is you who is aging slowly.
 
Really? Then why do I always hear about how if someone was in a spaceship traveling close to the speed of light would return to Earth to find that everyone else has aged more than him?
 
That's the twin paradox. The difference in this set-up is that one twin returns to Earth. In doing so, this twin must at some point slow down and change direction. It is this acceleration that breaks the symmetry. But you are right to be surprised -- that's why it's a seeming paradox! If the two twins never meet up again, they both go on aging normally according to themselves, but each ages slowly according to the other.
 
That's the twin paradox. In short, the traveling twin had to turn around to come back.

Here's one set of explanations: http://www.phys.ncku.edu.tw/mirrors/physicsfaq/Relativity/SR/TwinParadox/twin_paradox.html. If you don't like that set of explanations, google the term "twin paradox".

Edit: Too slow!
Funny that bapowell and I both started with the same phrase.
 
bapowell said:
it's a seeming paradox!

Actually, it is a paradox. :wink:
D H said:
Funny that bapowell and I both started with the same phrase.

Twins?!
 
binbots said:
I know this has been asked tons of times on here. But I never seem to understand the answers. So I challenge all you smart people to explain it as simple as possible. How does time slow down for a person who is traveling at a hihg speed and not for someone standing still?

This is one of the interesting predictions of the theory of relativity. It was verified experimentally, see the "Haefele-Keating" experiment.
 
Yes, i have read all of these things. But that is where I get confused. How could one twin age more than the other if there is no universal time frame? If these twins were the only 2 things in the universe how would anyone know who is traveling more than the other. tehy would both be traveling equal to each other?
 
binbots said:
Yes, i have read all of these things. But that is where I get confused. How could one twin age more than the other if there is no universal time frame?
There is no universal truth about an object's velocity, but there is a universal truth about whether an object is moving inertially or accelerating. If you have two twins that move apart and then reunite, with one twin moving inertially between the two meetings and the other accelerating to turn around, all frames agree that the inertial twin aged more between meetings than the accelerated twin (and they all agree on their precise ages when they reunite), despite the fact that they disagree about each twin's velocity and rate of aging during individual parts of the trip (for an example of the same trip calculated from two different frames, see my post #36 here)
binbots said:
If these twins were the only 2 things in the universe how would anyone know who is traveling more than the other. tehy would both be traveling equal to each other?
The twin that accelerates will feel G-forces when she accelerates, the twin that moves inertially will feel weightless the whole time (here we are talking about the twin paradox in special relativity where there is no gravity, though because of the http://www.aei.mpg.de/einsteinOnline/en/spotlights/equivalence_principle/index.html general relativity says that the G-forces of gravity can also be understood in terms of acceleration relative to a locally inertial frame)
 
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