EE Program vs Physics (Masters degree)

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the comparison between pursuing a master's degree in applied physics versus electrical engineering (EE). Participants explore personal experiences, career prospects, and the relevance of their educational backgrounds in the job market, focusing on the applicability of skills and the satisfaction derived from their chosen fields.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a lack of interest in their applied physics program and considers switching to engineering due to a perception of broader career opportunities.
  • Another participant shares experiences of individuals who transitioned from physics to EE, noting that while they gained valuable skills, they lacked a solid engineering foundation, which may limit their design capabilities.
  • A third participant highlights the potential for limited career advancement in physics without a PhD, sharing a personal anecdote about a relative who shifted to management after obtaining physics degrees.
  • Concerns are raised about job satisfaction versus salary, with some participants suggesting that engineering may offer better financial prospects, while others emphasize the importance of personal fulfillment in career choices.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the value of a physics versus an engineering degree, with some advocating for the practical applications of engineering and others reflecting on the intrinsic value of physics education. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best path forward for the original poster.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention various personal experiences and outcomes, but there is no consensus on the optimal degree choice or career path. The discussion includes assumptions about job markets and personal satisfaction that may not apply universally.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals considering graduate studies in physics or engineering, those evaluating career paths in STEM fields, and students seeking insights into the job market for physics versus engineering graduates.

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Hi everyone.

Recently, I started a MS program (terminal) in applied physics. I'm noticing my desire for physics really isn't there. The core coursework (classical mechanics, math physics) thus far isn't too interesting, thus I'm not doing that well.

The honest reason for going is that it seemed like a logical next step and I was excited. My undergraduate GPA wasn't stellar (around 3.0) mostly because I goofed around. Toward the end of my degree I started doing better when I got my priorities straight.

I did consider engineering programs for grad school and applied to two of them but the department at my current program was so welcoming that it was a big draw for me. I don't think my desire for physics though, is there.

I was figuring I could finish a masters degree in applied physics or engineering then work in industry, but it seems like my options with engineering are much more diverse and application based classes always interested me.

I could more than likely get into a terminal MS program for engineering.

Has anyone been down this path? Any advice is appreciated.
 
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Hi,

I have not done so myself but I have worked with a couple of folks who have. One was an okay physics student and the other was a brilliant student who should have gone directly to grad school for a PhD. Both of them have finished a master's degree in EE at a local grad school. Unfortunately, the ten courses or so will not make anybody a design engineer. Yes, of course, the math and physics is there but the solid engineering core is missing.

Compare 10 grad level courses that tend to enhance math skills or build upon already existing knowledge to 30+ courses in electronics, systems and signals, computer science, etc.

One of the guys is now an EE engineer, just doing okay. Not really capable of doing real design work. The other guy has become a guru on magnetics and electric machines, which is HOWEVER much closer to physics than the pure EE. He has found the proper balance.

Therefore, I would advise you to pursue the path you wish but bear in mind that you most likely will not be able to compete with people who came with a solid EE UG background. You can find your niche, however, and be very good at it, provided your previous focus on physics and mathematics.
 
One more thing-- my brother in law has finished BS and MS in physics at SUNY. He did work in a lab for a few years but unfortunately, he did not have much vertical mobility without a phd. Hence, unless you are a stellar student (it's up to you to decide), I would urge you to ponder your job prospects for a moment.

Btw. he did a second master's degree in management and is now a manager at a company where there is not much use of his physics background. While sad as it sounds, it actually makes him happy. And that's what counts.
 
Thank you for the response.

What is your friend doing at the company? Is he doing well financially?

I'm just feeling disenchanted with physics lately and have an urge to more applicable stuff. I also have a general feeling that it's easier to get a good job as an engineer.
 
fire8085 said:
Thank you for the response.

What is your friend doing at the company? Is he doing well financially?

I'm just feeling disenchanted with physics lately and have an urge to more applicable stuff. I also have a general feeling that it's easier to get a good job as an engineer.

Which person are you talking about? All of those people make $60k+ per year. Some might be closer to $70k but all have just a few years of experience. I believe that most of them will be making between $80k at $90k in a decade.

It all depends what you mean by doing "ok". Some people are fine with having $30k and job they love. Not sure how well and how soon UG physics degree pays off.

Ultimately it is all about you-- do you want to make the big (ehh) buck? Engineering might a good profession for you. I believe that life is too long to do a profession that pays off but does not satisfy you. Money should not be the only differentiator (might not be for you but could be for your future/current spouse :)).
 

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