How do I prove the monotonicity of √n + 1/n?

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The discussion revolves around proving the monotonicity of the expression √n + 1/n. Participants are exploring whether the sequence defined by this expression is increasing for natural numbers n.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants are attempting to show that √(n+1) + 1/(n+1) is greater than √n + 1/n to establish monotonicity. Some suggest using calculus by examining the derivative of a related function, while others question the necessity of using functions at all.

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The discussion is active, with various approaches being considered. Some participants express uncertainty about the problem statement, while others provide insights into the conditions under which the sequence may be monotonic. There is no explicit consensus on the method to be used or the validity of the sequence's monotonicity across all n.

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Some participants mention restrictions on using functions due to class curriculum, and there is a suggestion that the sequence may not be monotonic for all n, prompting further investigation into specific cases.

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Hi,

Any idea how I may prove that √n + 1/n is monotone? I am unable to show that √(n+1) + 1/(n+1) > √n + 1/n. Thanks!
 
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peripatein said:
Hi,

Any idea how I may prove that √n + 1/n is monotone? I am unable to show that √(n+1) + 1/(n+1) > √n + 1/n. Thanks!
Are you required to use induction? That seems to be what you're doing.

A different approach would be to show that if f(x) = x1/2 + x-1, then f'(x) > 0 if x is large enough (it doesn't have to be very large).
 
peripatein said:
Hi,

Any idea how I may prove that √n + 1/n is monotone? I am unable to show that √(n+1) + 1/(n+1) > √n + 1/n. Thanks!

The result is true if you mean √(n + (1/n)) and false if you mean what you *wrote*, which means (√n) + (1/n) (although in that case it is true for n ≥ 2).

RGV
 
Regardless of induction, an ascending monotone sequence satisfies the following:
There exist n0 natural, so that for every n>n0, the n+1th term of the sequence is greater than the nth term.
And I am not allowed to use functions.
 
peripatein said:
Regardless of induction, an ascending monotone sequence satisfies the following:
There exist n0 natural, so that for every n>n0, the n+1th term of the sequence is greater than the nth term.
And I am not allowed to use functions.
Why not? You need to show us the complete problem statement.
 
The reason I am not allowed to use functions as we haven't dealt with them in class yet.
 
But surely you have studied functions in a previous class. The function f(x) = √x + 1/x is defined for real x > 0, and gives the same values at positive integers as the sequence sn = s(n) = √n + 1/n. Looking at the graph of f can give you some insight into what your sequence does.
 
As I am not permitted to use functions, could someone please suggest how I may prove that the above sequence is monotone?
 
peripatein said:
Regardless of induction, an ascending monotone sequence satisfies the following:
There exist n0 natural, so that for every n>n0, the n+1th term of the sequence is greater than the nth term.
And I am not allowed to use functions.

As Ray has already pointed out, your series is not monotonic. Just calculate the first three terms to demonstrate this.

Or were you given a more specific problem statement?
 
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It is monotone, as for any n>=2 a_n+1>a_n
 
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peripatein said:
It is monotone, as for any n>=2 a_n+1>a_n

Good, so the question I was asking is whether you were given "for n>=2" as part of the problem statement or if you were supposed to find for what range of "n" it was monotone. In any case, proceed as follows.

I am unable to show that √(n+1) + 1/(n+1) > √n + 1/n.
Start by rearranging the reciprocals on one side of the inequation and the square roots on the other. Simplify the reciprocals to a common denominator and then multiply each side by the conjugate surd, [itex](\sqrt{n+1} + \sqrt{n})[/itex]. It's relatively easy after that.
 

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