Careers available with a Physics degree

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around potential career paths for individuals pursuing a degree in physics. Participants explore various job opportunities, both academic and non-academic, and the qualifications typically required for these roles.

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  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that being a physicist encompasses more than just teaching, including research and administrative roles, particularly in academia.
  • Others argue that careers in engineering may offer broader opportunities and less competition compared to physics roles, often requiring a PhD for advanced positions in physics.
  • A list of non-academic jobs suitable for physics graduates is proposed, including roles in systems engineering, biophysics, cryptography, actuarial science, statistics, numerical programming, patent law, and medical physics.
  • Concerns are raised about the availability of these positions for those with only a physics BS, suggesting that additional qualifications or experience may be necessary.
  • Participants clarify that medical physicists do not require an MD, and that the training for medical physics is distinct from that of physicians, typically involving advanced degrees and clinical residencies.
  • There is a discussion about the recruitment practices of organizations like the NSA, with some participants expressing skepticism about the suitability of physics graduates for certain roles without additional qualifications.
  • A participant notes a potential conflation in the earlier list regarding medical physicists and MD-related jobs, suggesting a need for clearer distinctions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of agreement and disagreement regarding the job prospects for physics graduates, with some supporting the idea that engineering offers better opportunities, while others maintain that physics graduates can find roles in various fields, albeit with certain qualifications. The discussion remains unresolved on the specifics of job availability and requirements.

Contextual Notes

Some claims about job availability depend on additional qualifications or experience that may not be universally applicable. The discussion also highlights the need for clarity in distinguishing between different career paths related to physics and medical fields.

tinypositrons
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Hi guys,

I was wondering what career paths there are for people that are planning to do a degree in physics. My friend's son (13) is brilliant at physics but is put off by the fact that he doesn't know of any jobs (other than a teacher) that would be suited to a degree in physics.

Thanks,
Joe
 
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Note that being a "Physicist" is much more than being a teacher. In addition to teaching, university physicists do research (and also administration duties). Physicists at national labs and in industry do not have to teach. These careers generally require a PhD. Otherwise engineering is a great way to put physics ability to use and the career prospects are more diverse and less competitive than with physics.
 
ModusPwnd said:
Note that being a "Physicist" is much more than being a teacher. In addition to teaching, university physicists do research (and also administration duties). Physicists at national labs and in industry do not have to teach. These careers generally require a PhD. Otherwise engineering is a great way to put physics ability to use and the career prospects are more diverse and less competitive than with physics.

Agree with this completely. It is really really hard to get a job as a full-time physicist at a National Lab or in industry (or in a University for that matter). It is much easier to have a successful career as an engineer, and a good way to apply physics knowledge.
 
Thanks guys!
 
tinypositrons said:
I was wondering what career paths there are for people that are planning to do a degree in physics.

Some physics grad students and I made a short list of non-academic jobs which have been known to hire people with physics undergrad or grad degrees:

  • systems engineer or similar (often aerospace or automotive)
  • biophysics or computational chemistry (often medical/drug companies)
  • cryptographer or signal analyst (NSA,CIA,DoD,DIA, other government acronyms)
  • actuary or quantitative analyst (usually insurance or finance)
  • statistician or data scientist (variety of industries, e.g. medical, advertising)
  • numerical programmer (engineering, finance, various software companies)
  • patent examiner or patent attorney (USPTO, law firms, may also require a JD)
  • medical physicist (may also require an MD)

This list oversimplifies and/or misses lots of things, but it's a start.
 
I don't think most of those positions would be available to a physics BS holder unless they had extra non-physics classes, experience or special circumstances.

Cryptographer with a physics BS?
 
NegativeDept said:
[*]medical physicist (may also require an MD)

Medical physicists do not hold MD degrees.

Medical physics is a profession separate from that of a physician, and training takes place in formal medical physics programs that grant M.S. or Ph.D. degrees, typically followed by clinical residencies.
 
ModusPwnd said:
I don't think most of those positions would be available to a physics BS holder unless they had extra non-physics classes, experience or special circumstances. Cryptographer with a physics BS?

NSA recruits engineering and comp-sci majors as signal analysts and all majors as cryptanalysts, so I'd be surprised if they don't hire physics majors! That said, it's certainly true that some careers in the listed categories prefer or require graduate degrees and/or additional knowledge besides physics.

EricVT said:
Medical physics is a profession separate from that of a physician, and training takes place in formal medical physics programs that grant M.S. or Ph.D. degrees, typically followed by clinical residencies.

Oops... I think our list accidentally conflated medical physicist with physics-related MD jobs like radiologists. Maybe it's more accurate to list "medical physicist" and "go to medical school after your physics degree" as two separate items.
 

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