IQ, Career & Engineering - Your Thoughts?

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The discussion revolves around the relationship between IQ, career success, and engineering, exploring whether a specific IQ threshold is necessary for success in engineering fields. Participants share personal experiences, opinions on the validity of IQ tests, and their perceptions of IQ's relevance in professional contexts.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question the validity of online IQ tests and argue that they do not accurately reflect one's capabilities in engineering or other fields.
  • Others suggest that IQ scores are not reliable predictors of success in specific professions, noting the variability among different types of engineers.
  • One participant mentions a personal experience with a job test that included an IQ and critical thinking assessment, highlighting the difficulty of the test compared to online versions.
  • Several comments express skepticism about the relevance of IQ comparisons across professions, suggesting that such comparisons may be based on flawed data.
  • There are humorous exchanges regarding the perceived intelligence of medical doctors compared to engineers, with some participants joking about the implications of such comparisons.
  • Some participants raise concerns about cultural and contextual factors influencing IQ test scores, suggesting that various external factors can affect results.
  • One participant shares a personal IQ score, while others provide their scores, leading to a light-hearted discussion about the significance of these numbers.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the significance of IQ in relation to engineering careers, with no consensus reached on whether a specific IQ score is necessary for success. The discussion includes both skepticism about the relevance of IQ and personal anecdotes that vary widely.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the lack of standardized IQ testing among professionals, potential biases in self-reported IQ scores, and the influence of cultural factors on test performance. Participants note that many surveys do not account for IQ, raising questions about the validity of claims comparing IQ across different professions.

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I'd be interested in seeing what your career is and your IQ. I'd also like your general thoughts on IQ and engineering, and do you think you need an IQ of 120 + to become a successful engineer?

Also this IQ test, which I'm sure doesn't have too much validity to it, but it's fun!

http://www.iq-test.com/free-iq-test/
 
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First, very few people have actually been administered IQ tests, the online games are not IQ tests and they do not count. IQ is not a predictor of how well someone will function in a particular field. You do know that the different types of engineers vary greatly?
 
strategos1618 said:
What is your IQ?

High enough to know that that is a fairly useless question. Scoring high on an IQ test basically shows that you have the kind of mind that scores high on an IQ test, not anything else.
 
IQ tests are primarily of use to therapists to categorize the mrdd population.

I don't believe IQ scores correlate well with imagination, creativity, etc. and STEM people shouldn't use them to compare each other.
 
\pm\infty of course. What kind of low IQ question is that?
 
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strategos1618 said:
I'd be interested in seeing what your career is and your IQ. I'd also like your general thoughts on IQ and engineering, and do you think you need an IQ of 120 + to become a successful engineer?

Also this IQ test, which I'm sure doesn't have too much validity to it, but it's fun!

http://www.iq-test.com/free-iq-test/

Last week I went to a job test in which I had to take an IQ& Critical thinking skill test. The IQ test included math reasoning skills. It was very hard. Your link to IQ test displays all completely easy problems. The CT test I took included reading and judging skills. I read a long statement and was given multiple choices and asked to pick up the one that was sufficient or insufficient to perform some action said in the statement. The only thing that annoyed me was that the receptionist who collected my paper and scanned my replies in the tests laughed at me for my bad scores. 30 min to work with 25 iq hard iq & 25 long ct questions.
 
jedishrfu said:
This site has a chart across professions but as you can its not very informative

http://www.iqcomparisonsite.com/occupations.aspx
It looks like medical doctors are smarter than engineers. In fact, medical doctors are smarter than everyone.
 
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zoobyshoe said:
It looks like medical doctors are smarter than engineers. In fact, medical doctors are smarter than everyone.

Yes, but that's only if you ask THEM.
 
  • #11
phinds said:
Yes, but that's only if you ask THEM.
You're right! If you scroll down and read the fine print it says, "This site sponsored by the American Medical Association."
 
  • #12
I have an IQ of 161*, and I don't see rocket scientist on the list. I must be a closet rocket scientist.

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* I know this for a fact. On my last science forum was a member who I considered just a tiny bit smarter than I. One day I asked him what his IQ was. He said 162.
 
  • #13
15,747,724,136,275,002,577,605,653,961,181,555,468,044,717,914,527,116,709,366,231,425,076,185,631,031,296
 
  • #14
zoobyshoe said:
In fact, medical doctors are smarter than everyone.
OmCheeto said:
I don't see rocket scientist on the list.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THNPmhBl-8I
 
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Bandersnatch said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THNPmhBl-8I

I've done brain surgery (neurosurgery). Believe me, it's not brain surgery. :-p

I like Evo's cute little muddled metaphor "rocket surgery". Always makes me laugh. :biggrin:
 
  • #16
This is a basic fact. I have been a member of the American Physical Society, and also have participated in survey done by the American Institute of Physics. In all those years, the AIP have survey a lot of things (one can look at the statistics report at the AIP page). However, there has NEVER, EVER been a survey or a question asking for IQ scores or number.

Now, this is purely a guess, but I tend to expect that other professional organizations (engineering, etc.) also may not have ever surveyed the IQs of their members. This brings me to two conclusions:

1. Whatever this IQ score is, it is of no relevance, or of little importance, to such professions. So why do we give even a second of our time on this?

2. Any reports comparing IQs of different professions may be based on faulty, non-representative data. After all, if these organizations that represents these professions do not have such data, just how many were used in the survey to arrive at any conclusion?

Zz.
 
  • #17
85

(much like my intellectual height, the above message was too short)
 
  • #18
Pythagorean said:
85

(much like my intellectual height, the above message was too short)

:smile:

No worries, Pyth, even a super genius would not meet the minimum character requirement :biggrin:.
 
  • #19
ZapperZ said:
2. Any reports comparing IQs of different professions may be based on faulty, non-representative data. After all, if these organizations that represents these professions do not have such data, just how many were used in the survey to arrive at any conclusion?

Zz.

It's not just the raw numbers. The sampling method also makes a huge difference, although I suspect you already know this.

Population-based surveys purporting to study IQ are fraught with major methodological issues that often invalidate or at least, greatly weaken, the results arising from them. It's a great pity that these deeply flawed studies have been used, and continue to be used, as a "scientific" basis for racial discrimination.
 
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Bandersnatch said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THNPmhBl-8I

:thumbs: :smile:

A couple of things about the list:
1. Where is bouncer? Isn't the smartest man in the world a bouncer? I think bouncers should be surveyed.
2. What is it about running Fire Sales that takes so much brains?

pf.fire.salemen.are.smart.jpg

I've actually never been to a fire sale. Has anyone ever been to a fire sale? Did the salesperson seem smart? I suppose they'd have to be smart, to talk people into buying goods that are burned, or smell funny.
 
  • #21
Bouncers definitely need to be surveyed. If you want to measure their intelligence, see if they took their job before getting a run-down on the drinks. Women can be trouble if they have been pounding down Allen's coffee brandy (a favorite around here), but that's nothing compared to a 200# man who has been drinking rum and Coke all night. I hosted a lot of open-mike jams at a place with a reputation for roughness, and the new owner replaced the Coke barrels with a version that was free of sugar and caffeine. He said it cut down on discipline problems.
 
  • #22
Lol Pyth :smile:

lisab said:
:smile:

No worries, Pyth, even a super genius would not meet the minimum character requirement :biggrin:.


+1
 
  • #23
Not enough man... Not enough
 
  • #24
Bandersnatch said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THNPmhBl-8I
That's hilarious!
 
  • #25
according to the mensa website I am 125, i did not get in =(
 
  • #26
My IQ is 83.
 
  • #27
Mine is 116 according to that iqtest.com
 
  • #28
Many things should be said, for example, culture can influence scores on such tests, how much logic you know can influence scores on such tests, it can be correlated with what school you went to, the various moods you might be in can cause a large swing in the scoring, etc. Also, each test is different, some have an average of 148, some have an average of 110. The worst of all are those word tests, you know, what does knoller mean, what does caterwauler mean.

Being good at recognizing patterns, I think I would score well on an IQ test, but I have never taken one.
 
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  • #29
Does a negative number count?:blushing:
 
  • #30
Dadface said:
Does a negative number count?:blushing:

Get in line behind me.
 

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