1-D Kinematics question, pls help

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The discussion revolves around a one-dimensional kinematics problem involving a train that accelerates uniformly, travels at a constant speed, and then decelerates to a stop. The original poster seeks assistance in calculating the total distance between two stations based on the given time intervals and distances.

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  • Participants discuss the need for additional information, such as acceleration or maximum speed. Some suggest breaking the journey into three segments to apply equations of motion for calculating acceleration and final speed. Others raise questions about the meaning of uniform retardation and the reasoning behind using specific values for initial and final speeds.

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The discussion includes various attempts to clarify the problem and explore different approaches. Some participants provide equations and reasoning, while others express confusion about specific terms and concepts. There is no explicit consensus, but guidance is being offered regarding the interpretation of the problem and the application of kinematic equations.

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Participants note the absence of certain values in the problem statement, which may affect the ability to solve it fully. The original poster expresses uncertainty about the concept of uniform retardation and its implications for the calculations.

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1-D Kinematics question, pls help:)

Homework Statement



A train moves off from a station and accelerates uniformly for 30.0 s over a distance of 225 m. It continues with the speed acquired for another 135 s, then the driver applies the brakes and the train comes to rest with uniform retardation at the next station in a further 10.0 s. Calculate the distance between the two stations

Homework Equations



vav= s/t?

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In the first part of the equation 'A train moves from a station...over a distance of 225 m'. It states that accelerates uniformily for 30. s over distance of 225 m and then continues that speed for another 135 s, so i did 135 s/30 s and then multiplied the answer which is 4.5 by 225 m= 1012.5, therefore it traveled 1012.5 m in the first 165 sec. The part of the equation i dnt understand is the last part 'then the driver applies the brakes...' and i do not understand what uniform retardation is. Could someone please help me?
I would really appreciate it, thankyou!:)
 
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there seems to be some values missing in the question, you need a value of the acceleration or the maximum speed, but it doesn't give you one...
 
Separate the journey into three legs;

The first leg is the departure with which we can use the equation of motion:

s = ut + \frac{at^{2}}2

to find the acceleration. Then use this to find the max speed obtained after acceleration.

Alternatively, you can just use;

s = \frac{(u + v)}2

and solve for v, the final speed after acceleration.

Both of these equations will yield the same result.

Are you familiar with these equations of motion?
 
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Hmm, first line you have u( initial speed ) =0 ,s= 225m, so using s= ut + 1/2at^2 u get a=o.5m/s^2.

Using v= u + at we get final speed (v) = 15m/s

For second line, its linear speed, so to calculate distance covered u use v=d/t, so d = 15*135 = 2025m

And for last part, to calculate retardation u use v= u + at, where v=0, u=15 and t=10...a= -1.5m/s^2

Using s= ut + 0.5at^2, we get distance during retardation, and finally add all distance
 
You really shouldn't just give the answer..
 
astrorob said:
You really shouldn't just give the answer..

Sorry, am new here, just learning how to post ^^
 
Khushveen said:
Hmm, first line you have u( initial speed ) =0 ,s= 225m, so using s= ut + 1/2at^2 u get a=o.5m/s^2.

Using v= u + at we get final speed (v) = 15m/s

For second line, its linear speed, so to calculate distance covered u use v=d/t, so d = 15*135 = 2025m

And for last part, to calculate retardation u use v= u + at, where v=0, u=15 and t=10...a= -1.5m/s^2

Using s= ut + 0.5at^2, we get distance during retardation, and finally add all distance

Thankyou for that, i understand the first part. Could someone pls tell me what uniform retardation means, is that decceleration? and also why do u make the initial speed 15 m/s in the last part, that was the final speed for the first part but why is it the initial speed in the last? i understand why the final speed is 0 but not why u is 15.
thankyou veri much for helping tho!
 
Well,

Uniform retardation means constant deceleration.

As for your second question, think of the journey in three parts.

The train accelerates to 15m/s, then travels a distance at THIS constant speed, then uniformly decelerates to 0m/s.

0m/s > acceleration > 15m/s > constant speed > deceleration > 0m/s

In the last leg of our journey, we're dealing with the deceleration, so the initial speed before deceleration is 15m/s.
 
Oh I get it now! Thankyou very much!
 
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