MHB -10.1.1 write polar to rectangular

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The discussion focuses on converting the polar equation \( r = 5\sin(2\theta) \) into rectangular coordinates, leading to the equation \( x^2 + y^2 = 10xy \). Participants note that multiplying both sides by \( r \) and substituting \( r^2 \) with \( x^2 + y^2 \) is crucial for the conversion. There's a distinction made between the polar plot of \( r = 5\sin(2\theta) \), which resembles a flower shape, and the Cartesian plot \( (x^2 + y^2)^3 = (10xy)^2 \). The conversation highlights that while both equations represent the same graph, \( r = 5\sin(2x) \) is a sine wave in Cartesian coordinates.
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$\textrm{write polar to rectangular coordinates}$
$$r=5\sin{2\theta}$$
$\textit{Multiply both sides by $r$}$
$$r^2=5r[\sin{2\theta}]
=5\cdot2[r\cos(\theta)r\cos(\theta)]$$
$\textit{then substitute $r^2$ with $x^2+y^2$ and
$[r\cos(\theta)r\cos(\theta)$ with $xy$}\\$
$\textit{then}\\$
$$x^2+y^2=10xy$$
hopefully
 
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karush said:
$\textrm{write polar to rectangular coordinates}$
$$r=5\sin{2\theta}$$
$\textit{Multiply both sides by $r$}$
$$r^2=5r[\sin{2\theta}]
=5\cdot2[r\cos(\theta)r\cos(\theta)]$$

You multiplied the LHS by $r$, but in applying an $r$ to both trig functions on the RHS, you effectively multiply that side by $r^2$.

I would begin with:

$$r=5\sin(2\theta)=10\sin(\theta)\cos(\theta)$$

So, now if we multiply both sides by $r^2$, we get:

$$r^3=10r\sin(\theta)r\sin(\theta)$$

$$\left(x^2+y^2\right)^{\frac{3}{2}}=10xy$$

Now, we must observe that in this form, the LHS is always positive, and so we will miss the petals in the 2nd and 4th quadrants (where the RHS is negative), so to get those, we need to square both sides:

$$\left(x^2+y^2\right)^{3}=(10xy)^2$$
 
I thought
$\displaystyle r=5sin(2x)$
and
$\displaystyle (x^2+y^2)^3=(10xy)^2$
would be the same graph?

one is a sine wave the other is a clover:cool:
 
karush said:
I thought
$\displaystyle r=5sin(2x)$
and
$\displaystyle (x^2+y^2)^3=(10xy)^2$
would be the same graph?

The polar plot:

$$r=5\sin(2\theta)$$

And the Cartesian plot:

$$\left(x^2+y^2\right)^{3}=(10xy)^2$$

Are equivalent.

However, the equation:

$$r=5\sin(2x)$$

is assumed to be plotted on a Cartesian coordinate system.

karush said:
one is a sine wave the other is a clover:cool:

Yes one is a sinusoid, while the other is referred to as a polar flower, I believe. :D
 
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