12 killed in Navy Yard (DC) shooting

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The discussion revolves around the tragic shooting incident at the Navy Yard in Washington, D.C., where twelve people were killed. Participants express their condolences, share personal experiences, and discuss the implications of the event, including security concerns and media reporting. The conversation touches on various aspects such as the shooter's background, the weapons used, and the overall societal response to such tragedies.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express sorrow and concern for the victims and their families, sharing personal connections to the Navy Yard.
  • There is a critique of media practices regarding the coverage of shooters, with some arguing that it may encourage future incidents.
  • Questions are raised about how the shooter was able to bring a gun into a heavily secured facility, with speculation about security clearance and access protocols.
  • Participants discuss conflicting reports about the types of weapons used, with some asserting that only a shotgun and two pistols were involved, while others claim an AR-15 was also used.
  • Concerns are voiced regarding the shooter's mental health history and the implications of having a security clearance despite reported issues.
  • Some participants challenge the accuracy of news reports, suggesting that many stories may be based on misinformation or unverified sources.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the incident, with no consensus on the specifics of the weapons used or the adequacy of security measures. Disagreement exists regarding the reliability of media reports and the implications of the shooter's mental health status.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved questions about the shooter's access to firearms and the security protocols in place at the Navy Yard. The discussion reflects a variety of perspectives on media reporting and the complexities surrounding mental health and security clearance.

  • #31
jim hardy said:
MADD made a difference by changing societal attitudes about DWI.
Different issue, but I don't suppose that graphic is adjusted for the fact that overall car accident deaths have dropped precipitously in that time due to cars being safer, does it...?
 
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russ_watters said:
Different issue, but I don't suppose that graphic is adjusted for the fact that overall car accident deaths have dropped precipitously in that time due to cars being safer, does it...?

Not intending to sidetrack the thread,
http://www.rita.dot.gov/bts/sites/r...tions/by_the_numbers/drunk_driving/index.html
However, drunk driving awareness and enforcement efforts such as Zero Tolerance Laws may be having a positive impact. The percentage of alcohol-related fatalities decreased from 50.6 percent in 1990 to 42 percent in 2009.

but their graphic goes back only to 2000; the percentage looks to be a relatively constant ~40% since then

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MADD really got going mid 90's.
http://www.madd.org/about-us/history/madd-milestones.pdf


My point about entertainment industry being - much behavior is imitation of hero archetypes. Watch your old movies with an eye toward what behaviors kids are apt to imitate. The emotionally broken, smoldering ones in particular.

As an early boomer I was titillated by James Bond . That promiscuous lush had every young man's dream life. Shoulda stuck with Davy Crockett.
 
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