Integrating with ln in denominator.

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The discussion revolves around integrating the function 1/(n(1 + ln(n))^(2/3)) with a focus on using substitution methods. The initial suggestion is to use u-substitution with u = ln(n), leading to du = 1/n, which raises concerns about complications due to the denominator. Another participant reassures that the substitution is valid and suggests further substitution to simplify the integral. The importance of verifying the solution by differentiating the result is also highlighted. Overall, the conversation emphasizes the process of integration and the utility of substitution techniques in calculus.
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Ok, so it's been a while since I've had to integrate anything, much less something like this.

\int \frac{1}{n(1 + \ln{n})^{2/3}} dn

I'm thinking u substition for ln(n) and then du becomes 1/n? But, since the ln(n) is in the denominator of a fraction raised to a power, wouldn't that mess with du? Or am I on the right track? I checked my calculus book and surfed the web, and couldn't find an integral for ln, so I can't see any other way...

If it helps, this is for a series check by integration to see if it's convergant or divergant, so it goes from nothing to infinity.
 
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Substitute u = ln(n), then substitute 1+u = v^3, and you simply have the integral of 3 dv
 
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You've got the right idea. Remember, a substitution is just that, substituting in another number or variable, so why would you be worried? :smile:
 
Because these things take a LONG time, and then I don't even know if I have the right answer unless I get stuck (then I know it's wrong).

Thanks. I'll play around with that tomorrow. I've been doing my homework for like 3 hours now, so I think I'll go to bed. :)
 
Also, remember that you can always check your answer by taking the derivative of your answer and seeing if it turns out to be the integrand

EDIT: Just by looking at it, it seems that your answer will be very straighforward and take very little steps to arrive at.

EDIT2: koroljov: you shouldn't simply provide the answer in such a situation.
 
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