18 Find the volume of the solid generated by revolving the region about y-axis.

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The discussion revolves around finding the volume of the solid generated by revolving a region defined by the equations \(y=4x-x^2\) and \(y=x\) about the y-axis. Participants explore different methods for calculating the volume, including the shell method and the washer method, while addressing the complexities involved in the calculations.

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  • One participant suggests rewriting the equations in terms of \(y\) to facilitate integration for volume calculation when revolving around the y-axis.
  • Another participant proposes using the shell method to avoid the need for two integrals and questions the radii and height of the shells.
  • Two participants provide detailed calculations using the shell method, arriving at a volume of \(\frac{27\pi}{2}\) and express hope that their calculations are correct.
  • A later reply introduces the washer method as an alternative approach, detailing the setup for the integrals and providing a different calculation that also leads to a volume of \(\frac{27\pi}{2}\). This participant checks their work against the previous calculations.

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Participants present multiple methods for calculating the volume, and while some calculations yield the same result, there is no consensus on the preferred method or the correctness of the approaches. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach to take.

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Some participants express uncertainty about the completeness of the graph and the implications of rotating around the y-axis versus the x-axis. There are also unresolved assumptions regarding the setup of the integrals and the definitions of the radii in the shell method.

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$\textsf{Find the volume of the solid generated by revolving the region
about y-axis.Given the boundares of }\\$
\begin{align*} \displaystyle
y&=4x-x^2\\
y&=x\\
\end{align*}

Ok, I presume since this is rotated around the y-axis that we have to rewrite the equations in terms of y

$y=-(x^2-4x)$
$4-y=(x-2)^2$
$\sqrt{4-y}=x-2$
$\sqrt{4-y}+2=x$

and

$x=y$

But the graph is not complete and is this not the same volume if it were rotated around the x-axis.

I thought this was going to be very easy, but going around the y-axis was confusing.
 
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I would use the shell method, so you don't have to use two integrals...what is the radii of the shells...what is the height?
 
\begin{align*}
\displaystyle
\int_0^3 2\pi x (3x-x^2)dx& = 2\pi \int_0^3 (3x^2-x^3)dx\\
& = 2\pi \left[x^3-\dfrac{x^4}{4}\right]_0^3 \\
&= 2\pi\left(27-\dfrac{81}{4}\right)\\
&= \dfrac{27\pi}{2}
\end{align*}

I followed an example in book!
hope its right
 
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karush said:
\begin{align*}
\displaystyle
\int_0^3 2\pi x (3x-x^2)dx& = 2\pi \int_0^3 (3x^2-x^3)dx\\
& = 2\pi \left[x^3-\dfrac{x^4}{4}\right]_0^3 \\
&= 2\pi\left(27-\dfrac{81}{4}\right)\\
&= \dfrac{27\pi}{2}
\end{align*}

I followed an example in book!
hope its right

Let's check by using the washer method:

$$dV=\pi\left(R^2-r^2\right)\,dy$$

On $[0,3)$:

$$R=y,\,r=2-\sqrt{4-y}$$

On $[3,4]$:

$$R=2+\sqrt{4-y},\,r=2-\sqrt{4-y}$$

Hence:

$$V=\pi\left(\int_0^3 y^2-\left(2-\sqrt{4-y}\right)^2\,dy+\int_3^4 \left(2+\sqrt{4-y}\right)^2-\left(2-\sqrt{4-y}\right)^2\,dy\right)$$

$$V=\pi\left(\int_0^3 y^2-\left(8-y-4\sqrt{4-y}\right)\,dy+\int_3^4 \left(4\right)\left(2\sqrt{4-y}\right)\,dy\right)$$

$$V=\pi\left(\int_0^3 y^2+y+4\sqrt{4-y}-8\,dy+8\int_3^4 \sqrt{4-y}\,dy\right)$$

$$V=\pi\left(\left[\frac{y^3}{3}+\frac{y^2}{2}-8y\right]_0^3+\frac{8}{3}\left(\left[u^{\frac{3}{2}}\right]_1^4+2\left[u^{\frac{3}{2}}\right]_0^1\right)\right)$$

$$V=\pi\left(9+\frac{9}{2}-24+\frac{8}{3}\left((8-1)+2\right)\right)=\frac{27}{2}\pi\quad\checkmark$$
 

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