MHB -2.2.12 dr/dθ = r^2/θ, r(1) = 2 IVP, graph, interval

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The discussion revolves around solving the initial value problem (IVP) given by the differential equation dr/dθ = r^2/θ with the initial condition r(1) = 2. Participants explore integrating the equation, leading to the expression 1/r = -ln(θ) + 1/2. They derive the solution r = 2/(1 - 2ln(θ)) and establish the interval for θ as 0 < θ < √e. The conversation highlights the importance of correctly applying integration techniques and understanding the implications of the logarithmic function in determining the solution's validity. The final solution and interval are confirmed as necessary for the problem's context.
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$$\d{r}{\theta}=\frac{r^2}{\theta},\quad r(1)=2$$
from i would deduct that $dr=r^2$ and $d\theta = \theta then$
$$\d{r}{\theta}=\frac{\theta}{r^2}
\text{ or }
\frac{1}{r^2}dr=\frac{1}{\theta}d\theta$$
intregrate
 
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karush said:
$$\d{r}{\theta}=\frac{r^2}{\theta},\quad r(1)=2$$
from i would deduct that $dr=r^2$ and $d\theta = \theta!$ then
$$\d{r}{\theta}=\frac{\theta}{r^2}$$
but to intregrate ??

I would begin with:

$$\int_2^r u^{-2}\,du=\int_1^{\theta} v^{-1}\,dv$$

What's the next step?
 
MarkFL said:
I would begin with:<br>
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$$\int_2^r u^{-2}\,du=\int_1^{\theta} v^{-1}\,dv$$<br>
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What's the next step?
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$$\frac{1}{u}\biggr|_2^r=\ln u\biggr|_1^\theta$$<br>
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sorta maybe
 
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karush said:
$$\frac{1}{u}\biggr|_2^r=\ln u\biggr|_1^\theta$$

sorta maybe

You want a negative sign on the left resulting from the application of the power rule. :)
 
ok appreciate
ill be in Hamilton library tmro
to do more
just have a tablet at home which is very hard to use
 
MarkFL said:
You want a negative sign on the left resulting from the application of the power rule. :)

\begin{align*}\displaystyle
\frac{1}{u}\biggr|_2^r&= -\ln u\biggr|_1^\theta\\
\frac{1}{r}-\frac{1}{2}&=-\biggr[\ln{\theta}-\ln 1\biggr]=\ln \theta\\
\frac{1}{r}&=-\ln \theta+\frac{1}{2}
\end{align*}
well so far??
the textbook answer is
$(a)\quad \displaystyle r = \frac{2}{1 − 2\, \ln θ} \\(c)\quad 0 < θ <
\sqrt{e}$

i continued but couldn't get this answer
 
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karush said:
\begin{align*}\displaystyle
\frac{1}{u}\biggr|_2^r&= -\ln u\biggr|_1^\theta\\
\frac{1}{r}-\frac{1}{2}&=-\biggr[\ln{\theta}-\ln 1\biggr]=\ln \theta\\
\frac{1}{r}&=-\ln \theta+\frac{1}{2}
\end{align*}
well so far??
the textbook answer is
$(a)\quad \displaystyle r = \frac{2}{1 − 2\, \ln θ} \\(c)\quad 0 < θ <
\sqrt{e}$

i continued but couldn't get this answer

You have:

$$\frac{1}{r}=-\ln(\theta)+\frac{1}{2}$$

If we combine terms on the RHS:

$$\frac{1}{r}=\frac{1-2\ln(\theta)}{2}$$

Invert both sides:

$$r=\frac{2}{1-2\ln(\theta)}$$

Now we know for the log function:

$$0<\theta$$

And we know:

$$1-2\ln(\theta)\ne0$$

$$1\ne2\ln(\theta)$$

$$\frac{1}{2}\ne\ln(\theta)$$

$$\theta\ne\sqrt{e}$$

As \(1<\sqrt{e}\), and we need the part of the solution containing the initial value, we conclude:

$$0<\theta<\sqrt{e}$$
 
Mahalo

I would have never gotten the interval
 
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here is what I will turn in
quess some got lost in the transparency transform
 

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