2 Polarizers attenuating a light beam

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The discussion revolves around the behavior of light passing through two polarizers set at an angle of 45 degrees. The original poster seeks to determine how much the angle needs to be increased for the intensity of light to be halved, starting from an initial angle of 45 degrees.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants explore the relationship between the angle of the polarizers and the intensity of light, questioning the effects of the angle on light transmission. There are inquiries about the intensity after the first polarizer and how it relates to the overall problem.

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Some participants are attempting to clarify the initial conditions and the effects of the polarizers on light intensity. There is a mix of attempts to solve the problem and requests for further elaboration on the reasoning behind the calculations.

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Participants note the importance of understanding the intensity changes as light passes through the polarizers and the implications of the angles involved. There is mention of potential errors in previous calculations that may affect the discussion.

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Homework Statement


An angle is given between 2 polarizer's (45 degrees), through them light passes (unpolarized than after passing through the first one it polarizes), some of the light its shown on the display. For how much does the angle needs to be increased for the intensity of light to be 2 times less if the starting angle is 45 degrees.
Given Var:
α=45°

Homework Equations


I=I0cos2α

The Attempt at a Solution


The answer in textbook:[/B]
α21=+15°
My work:
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My answer:(Side note I have a little error instead of II2 its I2, everything else is correct).
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Hi Stefan3423 and welcome to PF.

If the light intensity before going through the first polarizer is I0, what is it after it passes through it?
 
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stefan3423 said:

Homework Statement


An angle is given between 2 polarizer's (45 degrees), through them light passes (unpolarized than after passing through the first one it polarizes), some of the light its shown on the display. For how much does the angle needs to be increased for the intensity of light to be 2 times less if the starting angle is 45 degrees.
Given Var:
α=45°

Homework Equations


I=I0cos2α

The Attempt at a Solution


The answer in textbook:[/B]
α21=+15°
My work:View attachment 217015
The diagram is ok, but that is not really an attempt at a solution. Please show some thoughts at least.
 
haruspex said:
The diagram is ok, but that is not really an attempt at a solution. Please show some thoughts at least.
Well I know that cos of 90 degrees=0 which means no light will go through the crystal and if cos of 0 degrees=1 i.e the crystal cross section will match thus max polarised light will pass through
 
kuruman said:
Hi Stefan3423 and welcome to PF.

If the light intensity before going through the first polarizer is I0, what is it after it passes through it?
Another polirised beam of light with max intensity but the secound poliriser is at angle of 45 degrees
 
stefan3423 said:
Another polirised beam of light with max intensity but the secound poliriser is at angle of 45 degrees
You did not answer my question. If the intensity of the beam is I0 before the first polarizer, what is it after that polarizer? I am talking about the intensity between P1 and P2 in your drawing. There is no 45 degree angle involved, yet.
 
kuruman said:
You did not answer my question. If the intensity of the beam is I0 before the first polarizer, what is it after that polarizer? I am talking about the intensity between P1 and P2 in your drawing. There is no 45 degree angle involved, yet.
It starts with 45 degrees.BTW I solved it, found my errors and I will post my answer now.
 
stefan3423 said:
It starts with 45 degrees.BTW I solved it, found my errors and I will post my answer now.
Please do so.
 
kuruman said:
You did not answer my question. If the intensity of the beam is I0 before the first polarizer, what is it after that polarizer? I am talking about the intensity between P1 and P2 in your drawing. There is no 45 degree angle involved, yet.
 

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Instead of II2 is I2=I1/2
 
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Looks good.
 
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Polarized light going through a filter at angle α emerges with intensity I0cosα2. A single photon going through the same filter has the same probability of being detected on the far side. Is this a general rule: intensity reduction factor = single photon detection probability? In which case, the Schroedinger function, where probability = amplitude2, is a kind of "square root wave"?
 

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