2 significant spot groups currently visible

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The discussion centers around the visibility and orientation of two significant solar spot groups, active regions 2671 and 2672, as observed on the solar disk. Participants explore the implications of the orientation of images taken of these regions, including considerations of time of day and the effects of different viewing methods, such as visual versus telescopic views.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that both active regions have a good chance for C-class flares.
  • There is uncertainty regarding the time of day the image was taken, with participants questioning whether it was taken in the morning or afternoon.
  • One participant suggests that the image orientation may be inverted, leading to confusion about the correct positioning of the solar poles.
  • Another participant describes their own experience with a photo taken during a solar eclipse, noting that it appears rotated and inverted compared to a visual view.
  • Some participants discuss the effects of camera tilt on the perceived orientation of the sun in images.
  • There is mention of the differences between visual and telescopic views, with some participants asserting that telescopic images may show different orientations.
  • One participant provides a specific latitude to contextualize their observations and discusses the orientation of their image in relation to the solar spots.

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Participants express differing views on the orientation of the images and the implications of the time of day on these observations. There is no consensus on the correct orientation or the specific time the images were taken, indicating ongoing debate and uncertainty.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference various viewing methods and their effects on image orientation, but there are unresolved questions regarding how different instruments may affect the perceived orientation of solar images.

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Individuals interested in solar observation, astrophotography, and the technical aspects of imaging celestial bodies may find this discussion relevant.

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hi gang

there are currently 2 significant spot groups visible traversing the face of the solar disk

The centre-left string is active region 2671 and the region near the right edge ( eastern limb) is
active region 2672. AR2672 will continue to rotate across the disk across the next 2 weeks.

800mm, f9, 200th sec, ISO200 and solar filter

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Cool picture.
Both groups have a good chance for C-class flares.
 
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Was this picture taken morning hours? (to make sure I understand the orientation properly) Or pm hours and reverse image?
 
Stavros Kiri said:
Was this picture taken morning hours? (to make sure I understand the orientation properly) Or pm hours and reverse image?

West limb left side, east limb right side, not 100% certain if north pole is up or down ... I suspect it's up

this is visual view, non-telescope view as seen on spaceweather.com, sdac etc sites where E and W (and maybe N and S - not sure) are inverted
Tho I'm lead to believe that N and S poles are correct ( I haven't figured out how they invert E and W without doing the same to N and S poles ??)D
 
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Ok thanks Dave, that helps.
If it's visual view it must have been taken am hours, because that's how I see the sun in the morning. (In the afternoon and forth, if we do the "rotation" over our head, it turns upside down. [BTW, your being in the South Hemisphere I don't think it matters other than having the Sun to your left (instead of right) when you look East, this time of the year ... (simple Geometry).] )
 
I have a photo taken near the end of the eclipse Monday 8-21-2017 from Oregon. The photo above looks to be near midday. It is rotated 180 degrees. Both the E/W and N/S are swapped. This is the view as would be seen in an astronomical telescope. If you add a diagonal you get the N/S corrected but the E/W is still reversed. I will add a photo if I can figure out how.
 
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Len44 said:
This is the view as would be seen in an astronomical telescope.
It depends on the time.
Len44 said:
I will add a photo if I can figure out how.
Please do! You have to create media first, I think.
 
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The camera was tilted down on left a little to show more of the width of the sun. 11:33:01 PDT Aug 21, 2017. 2286mm (90 inches), f15, 100th sec, ISO 200 solar filter. Even though this is a 6" refractor it works just like a standard camera lens.
 
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View attachment 209698 The camera was tilted down on left a little to show more of the width of the sun. 11:33:01 PDT Aug 21, 2017. 2286mm (90 inches), f15, 100th sec, ISO 200 solar filter. Even though this is a 6" refractor it works just like a standard camera lens.
That's what I see pm hours. Is your image inverted for some reason?
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Even though this is a 6" refractor it works just like a standard camera lens.
?
 
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I am in the northern hemisphere at about 44.5 degrees north latitude. On checking an image that I took with the camera level I would say that the photo that I posted is rotated clockwise approximately 46 degrees. Otherwise it is exactly as was seen with the naked eye.
 
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Len44 said:
I am in the northern hemisphere at about 44.5 degrees north latitude. On checking an image that I took with the camera level I would say that the photo that I posted is rotated clockwise approximately 46 degrees. Otherwise it is exactly as was seen with the naked eye.
Is the small spot to the left, next to the moon, group region 2672? If yes (which I assume) then the orientation for am hours is that of a telescope view (unless your instruments are not upright; 46 degrees would still project similar view). In other words your image is almost inverted; I don't know why it is or how you managed it.
See also
https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/solar-activity-and-space-weather-update-thread.923468/
(posts #1, #2)

davenn's looks like am hours, visual view. That's what I also saw am hours back then (upright visual view image) ... etc.
[That's why I originally asked the 'hours' question.]
 

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