2-slits, 2-observers, 2-languages, 2-outcomes ?

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The discussion revolves around a thought experiment involving a double slit experiment with two observers who speak different languages. It explores the implications of "which path" information being available in a language that one observer cannot understand, and how this might affect the observation of interference patterns.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes a scenario where two scientists, one speaking Chinese and the other English, observe a double slit experiment with "which path" information displayed in Chinese. They question whether the English-speaking scientist would see interference while the Chinese-speaking scientist would not.
  • Another participant asserts that the presence of "which way knowledge," regardless of who understands it, prevents interference from being observed.
  • A third participant references a definition of observation as an irreversible thermodynamic process, suggesting that the language barrier does not impact the fundamental nature of observation.
  • One participant draws a parallel to the quantum eraser experiment, suggesting that the situation is akin to information being "lost in translation," and emphasizes the philosophical implications regarding the concept of an observer.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the role of language and understanding in the observation of quantum phenomena. There is no consensus on whether the language barrier affects the observation of interference patterns.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes assumptions about the nature of observation and the impact of knowledge on quantum outcomes, which remain unresolved. The implications of language and understanding in quantum mechanics are also not fully explored.

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I was just thinking about this experiment and wondered what the outcome would be.

Run a double slit experiment with detectors that can provide the "which path" information of photons.

Here is the twist, there are two scientists in the laboratory. One scientist can only read Chinese and the other can only read english. They are stuck on a planet where there is no way for the english speaking scientist to learn Chinese.

Now the detector displays the "which path" information in Chinese. Both scientist see the Chinese, but only one can actually understand the information. The English scientist can't read Chinese and has no clue "which path" the photon took.

Does the English scientist see interference and the Chinese scientist not?

Could a third person who speaks both languages ask each scientist what they saw and get different responses?

Cheers,

Tony
 
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It doesn't matter if the "which way knowledge" is known to the scientist, or if it's dispersed across the entire universe; as long as it exists, interference will not be observed.
 
As described by Wikipedia, observation is nothing more than irreversible thermodynamic process. This has nothing to do with languages or consciousness (or at least wasn't proven yet :P ).
 
I thought above example might be similar to the quantum eraser experiment, where the process is reversable and the "which path" information is lost and interference is re-established.

In this case the information is simply "lost in translation", instead of some elaborate mechanism of beam splitters.

I guess this has more to do with the true meaning of observer than anything else.
 

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