22-year old felon who's failed college 4 years in a row

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The discussion revolves around the challenges faced by an individual with a felony record seeking to pursue a career in physics after multiple academic setbacks. Participants explore the feasibility of returning to college, the implications of a criminal record on future employment, and strategies for academic success.

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  • Some participants suggest that the individual should focus on successfully completing one semester of community college before considering long-term career goals in physics.
  • Others propose that online classes could be a viable option for academic advancement.
  • Several participants emphasize the importance of starting fresh at a new institution without transferring previous credits to improve GPA.
  • There are concerns raised about the significant obstacles a felony record poses to future employment opportunities, particularly in academia.
  • Some participants recommend seeking a pardon or expungement of the felony record to mitigate its impact on future job prospects.
  • Advice is given to maintain discipline and avoid behaviors that could jeopardize academic and professional goals, such as substance use.
  • Participants highlight the necessity of excelling academically and personally to overcome the stigma associated with a criminal record.

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Participants generally agree that the individual faces substantial challenges due to their past but remain divided on the best strategies for moving forward. There is no consensus on the feasibility of pursuing a physics career given the felony record.

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Limitations include the lack of specific information on the processes for expungement or pardon, and the discussion does not address the potential variability in institutional policies regarding admissions for individuals with criminal records.

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I still want to be a physicist. I want to go back to school next fall, but haven't really made plans yet. I went to university for one year after high school, failed one semester and withdrew the next before being kicked out of the dorms for smoking pot. The next 3 years I attended a local community college, each year failing or withdrawing due to legal or personal issues. I've completed a handful of courses, but the failed/incomplete courses decimate my GPA beyond recovery.

What I want to know:

1. Is it even realistic to seek a career in physics with a felony (Terroristic Threats) and various misdemeanors (possession of pot, disturbing the peace, and willful reckless driving, among others) on my record?

2. If so, and given that I feel I've finally acquired the discipline and maturity to dedicate myself to academics, what steps do I take to go back to college? I'm primarily worried about my academic record, and if there's a way to "start over". I'm not interested in keeping any of the credits I've earned because my GPA is abysmal.
 
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Your question 1 is way, way, way in the future. You need to focus on getting through one semester of community college. If you can't do that, the rest is moot.
 
Two words, Online Classes
 
spinningchurro said:
I still want to be a physicist. I want to go back to school next fall, but haven't really made plans yet. I went to university for one year after high school, failed one semester and withdrew the next before being kicked out of the dorms for smoking pot. The next 3 years I attended a local community college, each year failing or withdrawing due to legal or personal issues. I've completed a handful of courses, but the failed/incomplete courses decimate my GPA beyond recovery.

What I want to know:

1. Is it even realistic to seek a career in physics with a felony (Terroristic Threats) and various misdemeanors (possession of pot, disturbing the peace, and willful reckless driving, among others) on my record?

2. If so, and given that I feel I've finally acquired the discipline and maturity to dedicate myself to academics, what steps do I take to go back to college? I'm primarily worried about my academic record, and if there's a way to "start over". I'm not interested in keeping any of the credits I've earned because my GPA is abysmal.
Firstly, don't give up on yourself. Secondly, what Vanadium said. Attend a reasonably good community college, or public university and take the necessary introductory (or remedial) math and science/physics courses. Learn the material well and strive for a high GPA.

Thirdly, keep yourself clean!
 
Take a deep, deep breath and realize that you have put yourself in a situation where cannot blame others from harbouring doubts about you.
Do NOT whine about that! Instead, if to study is what you REALLY want you must be methodical and very industrious.
You CAN succeed, but do not make light of the hurdles you have placed in your way, or expect others to do so.

If, however, you are really dedicated and motivated with your studies, I think you might well succeed.

Good luck!
 
To the OP:

I know that your current focus is on academics. However, you should know (if you don't already) that having a felony record will be a major obstacle in your ability to find employment.

I would advise you to request either a pardon through the governor's office or an expungement (I'm assuming that you are based in the US). I found this website using Google about the process involvement:

http://www.clearupmyrecord.com/what-is-a-governors-pardon.php
 
spinningchurro said:
I still want to be a physicist. I want to go back to school next fall, but haven't really made plans yet. I went to university for one year after high school, failed one semester and withdrew the next before being kicked out of the dorms for smoking pot. The next 3 years I attended a local community college, each year failing or withdrawing due to legal or personal issues. I've completed a handful of courses, but the failed/incomplete courses decimate my GPA beyond recovery.

What I want to know:

1. Is it even realistic to seek a career in physics with a felony (Terroristic Threats) and various misdemeanors (possession of pot, disturbing the peace, and willful reckless driving, among others) on my record?

2. If so, and given that I feel I've finally acquired the discipline and maturity to dedicate myself to academics, what steps do I take to go back to college? I'm primarily worried about my academic record, and if there's a way to "start over". I'm not interested in keeping any of the credits I've earned because my GPA is abysmal.


As I'm sure others have said, Physics is a demanding discipline. As such, I have a few bits of advice:

First, go to another school and don't transfer any credits, your GPA will be fresh.

Second, you say you have gained the maturity and such to succeed in school. Good. You will need it and the (I dare say reckless) behavior you previously demonstrated will not help you in the slightest. Even something trivial like smoking pot will be detrimental to you. Keep yourself clean and out of trouble, note that any wasted time is time you will never get back.

Third, getting a job with a felony and multiple misdemeanors is a daunting task, for any job, let alone academia. My advice would be to see about getting them expunged if possible. If not, you will need to prove to employers that you've changed, so get involved with service organizations. Make sure that you have it on paper that you are a better, more mature person.

I wish you the best.
 
Basically, with your previous record, you have placed yourself in a position that would be unfair for a NON-felon:

You will have to EXCEL, in order to succeed. Both on a personal and professional level.

As long as your will is strong enough (do not fall into the trap of self pity!), excelling is what you always CAN do on the personal level, and if you are methodical and industrious enough, you can do it so great professionally that people around you will regard you as excelling there as well.
 

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