243 parametric equations and motion direction

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The discussion revolves around the analysis of parametric equations representing the motion of a particle in the xy-plane. Participants explore how to derive a Cartesian equation from the given parametric equations and discuss the direction of motion along the path traced by the particle.

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  • Mathematical reasoning
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant claims the Cartesian equation derived from the parametric equations is \(x^2 + y^2 = 4\), identifying the path as a circle with a radius of 2.
  • Another participant challenges the use of a graphing tool (Desmos) for verification, providing a mathematical derivation of the Cartesian equation from the parametric forms \(x = 2 \cos(t)\) and \(y = 2 \sin(t)\).
  • There is a disagreement regarding the direction of motion, with one participant stating it moves clockwise and another asserting it moves counter-clockwise based on the values of \(t\) at the endpoints.
  • A participant expresses confusion about the derivation of the square terms in the Cartesian equation.
  • Another participant explains that the squares were introduced to eliminate the parameter \(t\) using the identity \(\sin^2(t) + \cos^2(t) = 1\).

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the direction of motion, as one claims clockwise while another claims counter-clockwise. There is also confusion regarding the derivation of the Cartesian equation, indicating a lack of agreement on the steps taken.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about the notation and the interpretation of the parameter interval, particularly in relation to the motion direction and the Cartesian equation.

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11.1 Parametric equations and a parameter interval for the motion of a particle in the xy-plane given. Identify the paritcals path by finding a Cartestian equation for it $x=2\cos t, \quad 2 \sin t, \quad \pi\le t \le 2\pi$
(a) Identify the particles path by finding a Cartesian Equation the Cartesian equation is
$$x^2+y^2=4$$
(b) Indicate the portion of the graph traced by the particle and the direction of motion
so if $x=2cos{(\pi)}=-2$ and $x=2cos{(2\pi)}=2$ then
$$-2\le t \le 2$$
and the particle moves in a clockwise directionView attachment 9217

ok, I think this is correct but I got the carresian equation just by ploting the parametric into desmos and saw that it was a circle with a radius of 2. the examples didn't the normal steps

also obviously I just pluged into see the direction of motion so...

I was going to try to use tikx on this but didn't how to use an interval be cute to put an arrow also
 

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Did you really need to use "desmos"? If x= 2 cos(t) and y= 2 sin(t) then x^2= 4 cos^2(t) and y^2= 4 sin^2(t) so x^2+ y^2= 4cos^2(t)+ 4sin^2(t)= 4(cos^2(t)+ sin^2(t))= 4, the equation of a circle of radius 2. When t= \pi, x= 2 cos(\pi)= -2, y= 2 sin(\pi)= 0 and when t= 2\pi, x= 2 cos(2\pi)= 2, y= 2 sin(2\pi)= 0 so the particle moves counter-clock wise from (-2, 0) to (2, 0). You say "-2\le t\le 2". I am sure you mean "-2\le x\le 2".
 
Ok I didn't understand how the square got there

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Why is the text encroaching
 

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Do you mean x^2 and y^2? They "got there" because I put them there!

And I put them there because I wanted an equation in x and y only. I wanted to eliminate "t" and I knew that, for any t, sin^2(t)+ cos^2(t)= 1.
 

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