3 concentric conducting spheres, the outer one connected to ground

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving three concentric conducting spheres, with the outer sphere connected to ground. Participants are exploring the implications of grounding on electric potential and charge density within the system.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are questioning whether grounding implies that the electric potential at the outer surface is zero or if it affects the surface charge density. There are hints regarding the relationships between charge densities on different surfaces and the electric field outside the outer sphere.

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Some participants have provided hints and clarifications regarding the relationships between charge densities and the implications of grounding. There is an ongoing exploration of the problem, with no explicit consensus reached yet.

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Participants are discussing the implications of grounding and the relationships between charge densities, while also considering the relevant equations for electric fields and potentials in the context of the problem.

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Homework Statement
Three concentric conductor spheres, the outer of them connected to ground, have electrical charges[itex]Q_A[/itex], [itex]Q_B[/itex] and [itex]Q_C[/itex], and radii[itex]R_1[/itex], [itex]R_2[/itex], [itex]R_3[/itex], [itex]R_4[/itex] and[itex]R_5[/itex], from the inner to the outer. Find the induced charges and the equations of the electric field and the potential of the system.
Relevant Equations
[tex] \oint \vec E\cdot d\vec S =\frac{q}{\epsilon_0}[/tex]
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What would the fact that the fifth surface is connected to the ground imply: that [itex]V(r=R_5)=0[/itex] or that [itex]\sigma _5=0[/itex]?
 
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Hello Sokolov, :welcome: !

Ground is considered ##V=0##.
Perhaps not extremely interesting for part two, since ##E## is a derivative.
 
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Sokolov said:
Homework Statement:: Three concentric conductor spheres, the outer of them connected to ground, have electrical charges[itex]Q_A[/itex], [itex]Q_B[/itex] and [itex]Q_C[/itex], and radii[itex]R_1[/itex], [itex]R_2[/itex], [itex]R_3[/itex], [itex]R_4[/itex] and[itex]R_5[/itex], from the inner to the outer. Find the induced charges and the equations of the electric field and the potential of the system.
Relevant Equations:: [tex]\oint \vec E\cdot d\vec S =\frac{q}{\epsilon_0}[/tex]

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What would the fact that the fifth surface is connected to the ground imply: that [itex]V(r=R_5)=0[/itex] or that [itex]\sigma _5=0[/itex]?
Couple of hints to add to BvU's:
1. what can you say about ##\sigma_2 ## vs. ##\sigma_1 ##? Etc?
2. What must be the field outside R5? What does that imply for ## \sigma_5 ## assuming you've worked out the other sigmas?

P.S. ## \sigma_i ## means charge density on surface i.
 
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BvU said:
Hello Sokolov, :welcome: !

Ground is considered ##V=0##.
Perhaps not extremely interesting for part two, since ##E## is a derivative.

Hi BvU, thanks for the answer! It was just what I needed to know in order to be able to solve the problem.
 
rude man said:
Couple of hints to add to BvU's:
1. what can you say about ##\sigma_2 ## vs. ##\sigma_1 ##? Etc?
2. What must be the field outside R5? What does that imply for ## \sigma_5 ## assuming you've worked out the other sigmas?

P.S. ## \sigma_i ## means charge density on surface i.

Thanks rude man! With your hints and BvU's answer I think that I have been able to solve the problem correctly :) .
 

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